Anyone know if 94 and newer tires and rims(oem) weight more than the 91 stock setup?
What are the advantages of goingto the 16/17 size? Thanks Dan
What are the advantages of goingto the 16/17 size? Thanks Dan
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Do 94 and newer tires and rims weight more than 91's
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Hmm - I was about to give you a ribbing about checking the FAQ wheel tech here: http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/TireWheel/wheeltech.htm
But I didn't see the OEM 16/17 weights or the new 2002/2003 wheel/tire weights.
Anyone know? I assume the information is out there we just need to update the FAQs or I am missing it in my search for "wheel weight"
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Nick M
91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids
But I didn't see the OEM 16/17 weights or the new 2002/2003 wheel/tire weights.
Anyone know? I assume the information is out there we just need to update the FAQs or I am missing it in my search for "wheel weight"
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Nick M
91' Red/Black with Many Mods
99' Honda Odyssey with Many Kids
Those are weights only of the wheels. Tire weight is important too.
Bridgestone includes tire weight (rounded to the nearest pound) on its spec sheet for the RE010 tire. Their website is down today but when it comes up again, we can look up tire weight for the various OEM sizes there.
Primary advantages of the larger sizes: (1) cosmetics (2) can accommodate some aftermarket caliper modifications (3) longer treadlife (4) handling differences which are insignificant IMO.
Primary advantages of the smaller sizes: (1) tires are less expensive (2) wider selection of tires, particularly track tires.
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 02 March 2003).]
IMO the primary advantage of the 15/16 combo is their lighter weight. This is in keeping with the NSX's design goals and philosophy. Of course I assume the 15/16's WITH TIRES is lighter than other combos but as pointed out above we have not seen those figures yet. Anyone have them?
We will have them when Bridgestone brings its website back up. See above. And be patient, young grasshopper.
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 02 March 2003).]
As an example Prodrive and Toyo T1-s in a 215/40/17 and 255/35/18 config is 69.5 kg and with S03 75.5 kg all 4 wheels.
Oem 15/16 is 69,1 kg in total while OEM 16/70 is 80 ! kg.
One point that nsxtasy don’t mention is that bigger rims with open design allow air to flow better – more cooling to the brakes, some rims also work slightly as an propeller.
I have a quandary if I should choose the lighter Proxes or S03 with better dry traction. Some experience that T1-S over heat when tracking your car.
Edit: Wrong weight on S03.
[This message has been edited by Klas (edited 02 March 2003).]
Oem 15/16 is 69,1 kg in total while OEM 16/70 is 80 ! kg.
One point that nsxtasy don’t mention is that bigger rims with open design allow air to flow better – more cooling to the brakes, some rims also work slightly as an propeller.
I have a quandary if I should choose the lighter Proxes or S03 with better dry traction. Some experience that T1-S over heat when tracking your car.
Edit: Wrong weight on S03.
[This message has been edited by Klas (edited 02 March 2003).]
Thanks for the input. I have thought about
going to the 16 17 setup, but dont know if I should keep the 15 16 as it was designed that
way. I do like the newer style wheels, but the 15 16's look nice and I like to kep my car OEM and correct. Dan
going to the 16 17 setup, but dont know if I should keep the 15 16 as it was designed that
way. I do like the newer style wheels, but the 15 16's look nice and I like to kep my car OEM and correct. Dan
If you decide to buy a set of newer wheels - either OEM or aftermarket - you can always keep the original wheels and put them back on the car if and when you decide to sell.
here is the A022 weight info i obtained from yokohama several years ago:
205/50-15 21.16 lbs.
225/50-16 25.79
215/45-16 21.3
245/40-17 25.9
in summary, while the 16/17" wheels are about 7 lbs heavier than the 15/16", the tire weight is practically the same.
205/50-15 21.16 lbs.
225/50-16 25.79
215/45-16 21.3
245/40-17 25.9
in summary, while the 16/17" wheels are about 7 lbs heavier than the 15/16", the tire weight is practically the same.
The Bridgestone website is back up and the RE010 spec sheet shows the following tire weights:
215/45-16 22 lbs
245/40-17 27 lbs
I don't know why they don't show the specs for the '91-93 sizes.
Incidentally, the RE040 spec sheet shows the following tire weights for the '02-03 sizes:
215/40-17 22 lbs
255/40-17 29 lbs
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 02 March 2003).]
215/45-16 22 lbs
245/40-17 27 lbs
I don't know why they don't show the specs for the '91-93 sizes.
Incidentally, the RE040 spec sheet shows the following tire weights for the '02-03 sizes:
215/40-17 22 lbs
255/40-17 29 lbs
[This message has been edited by nsxtasy (edited 02 March 2003).]
the RE040 spec sheet shows four different part numbers for the NSX (in contrast to the other OEM applications listed). so this tire appears to be corner specific afterall, with built-in bias, like the earlier OEM tires for the NSX.
That's correct - which is why I noted that in this topic and in this topic. However, since the current topic is about wheel and tire weights, and not about whether or not these tires have the NSX-specific design used in the other OEM tires, I figured it wasn't necessary to point it out here as well.
Wow, I would have thought that the bigger tires would weight alot more. Thanks for all your help. Dan
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