Good reads here, Gregg Avedon is a health nut, I found his tips/information very handly in eating right/working out
http://www.greggavedon.com/
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No offense but just because you have an MD does not mean you know everything in every detail about the body, if that were true we wouldn't need specialists. I am saying this not on speculation but many of my good friends and family members are doctors, I have discussed diet and nutrition with many and while they can generalize but they can't say explicitly one way or another. You have good and bad doctors, some practice what they preach and some don't, fact is some of the people that I know to be in the worst shape are doctors.
If you really believe its simple math, calories in versus calories out, why is it that two people who weigh the same and have similar body fat percentages have to have completely different diets for the same results? Or why is it that two people that have the same diets have completely different bodies, assuming the same level of activity. According to your theory they should look the same. Counting calories and knowing that for me to lean down to sub 10% body fat I have to change not only my caloric intake but also the types of foods I am eating, more importantly is the type. I never got down to sub 5% bodyfat regardless of my activity level and calorie restriction until I elimnated most simple carbs from my diet and focused on eating non-processed foods. This is my real world experience and I have had many discussions with other people that have to do the same, I can't get lean eating lots of simple carbs it just doesnt' happen. I also believe that your body takes different amount of energy to process different foods. This has been studied in several medical studies, I can dig them up if you want to read them, I have them somewhere.
You can believe what you want and I can believe and practice what works for me. This is based on a lot of reading from people that have spent long hours going over this information and doing studies beyond that of just having an MD(Please don't think that I am belittling an MD, I hold most doctors in the highest esteem, I actually find the body quite fascinating I was supposed to work on a project with a brain surgeon when I was at UF-Mech Engineering, didn't have the time though during my senior year, very interesting guy). I think if I could of handled the gore, being a doctor would of been another profession I would of chosen.
I claim to have a slow metabolism...but I am anything but sendentary, I don't know too many people that are as active as me. As a person that works out and used to actually count calories, I was very aware of what I was putting in my mouth, both caloric value and nutritional value.
If you talk to differnt body builders you will find out that there diets are completely different from one to the next in the same weight class. Yes the variable could be level of activity...but to me it seems like the biggest variable is themselves
In summary I still believe that no one particular diet is right for everybody and in reality I don't believe in diets, I believe in a healthy lifestyle.
I am off to the gym to practice what I preach!:wink:
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What happened to everybody else? Over the past two months I had accomplished zero in terms of weight loss, in fact I had gained a couple of pounds, but I've done a 6 mile and an 8 mile run in prep for the 10 mile run on 7/31. I did OK with the 6 mile (no walking), but the 8 mile I ended up walking much of the last 4. However one of my goals is to get down to the same weight I was at last time I did this run in 2004, that meant I needed to lose about 20 lbs in the next 2.5 months. I decided to pull out the big guns that had always worked for me and go on a ketogenic diet. God I love carbs, but I have had no carbs at all since Sunday night and I've lost 8 lbs. I now have 12 to go.... my ketostix tell me I'm in deep ketosis so I'm going to see if I can make it through the weekend without carbs (other than the occasional low carb crunch bar). Exercise is exhausting right now, I can't really go longer than 25 minutes before completely pooping out, but I also remember that this gets easier after my body gets used to ketosis. Latest stats at the bottom of this post..
Started on 9/19
As of 10/24
down 11lbs. My spreadsheet tells me I've done 1012 minutes of stairmaster since 9/19 and burned 10835 calories (based on the loose estimate the stairmaster displays). I haven't been good about tracking floors climbed or miles, but we're over 3000 floors and 65 miles.
As of 11/22
down 16 lbs. 30 hours 58 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 21094 calories burned. 6320 floors, 143.13 miles.
My diet still sucks.
As of 12/28
down 19.5 lbs. 49 hours 18 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 35112 calories burned. 10583 floors. 231.82 miles. I may really need to start adjusting my diet soon. I was actually the same weight I am today on Thanksgiving day, but then went up and have spent the last month getting back to where I was.
As of 2/21
down 22.5lbs (about the same as on 1/21), 66 hours 32 minutes on the stairmaster, 47548 calories burned. 14410 floors. 311.48 miles.
As of 4/5
down 28.5 lbs. About halfway to my goal. Nice that my pants waist size finally starts with a 3 again! My diet still isn't great but I've stopped going out to eat for lunch all the time. On Monday I go to the supermarket and buy deli meats and have a sandwich every day except Friday generally. Still not a great diet, but it's an improvement.
87 hours 26 minutes of stairmaster, 62928 stairmaster calories burned (Suunto Training Manager tells me I'm burning more calories than the stairmaster does, it's probably more accurate since it takes a lot more variables into account), 19219 floors, 399.89 miles.
As of 5/18
down 31.5 lbs. 104 hours 7 minutes of stairmaster/running, 76648 calories burned, 21807 floors of stairmaster (but doing a lot of running outside), 487.35 miles.
Started on 9/19
As of 10/24
down 11lbs. My spreadsheet tells me I've done 1012 minutes of stairmaster since 9/19 and burned 10835 calories (based on the loose estimate the stairmaster displays). I haven't been good about tracking floors climbed or miles, but we're over 3000 floors and 65 miles.
As of 11/22
down 16 lbs. 30 hours 58 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 21094 calories burned. 6320 floors, 143.13 miles.
My diet still sucks.
As of 12/28
down 19.5 lbs. 49 hours 18 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 35112 calories burned. 10583 floors. 231.82 miles. I may really need to start adjusting my diet soon. I was actually the same weight I am today on Thanksgiving day, but then went up and have spent the last month getting back to where I was.
As of 2/21
down 22.5lbs (about the same as on 1/21), 66 hours 32 minutes on the stairmaster, 47548 calories burned. 14410 floors. 311.48 miles.
As of 4/5
down 28.5 lbs. About halfway to my goal. Nice that my pants waist size finally starts with a 3 again! My diet still isn't great but I've stopped going out to eat for lunch all the time. On Monday I go to the supermarket and buy deli meats and have a sandwich every day except Friday generally. Still not a great diet, but it's an improvement.
87 hours 26 minutes of stairmaster, 62928 stairmaster calories burned (Suunto Training Manager tells me I'm burning more calories than the stairmaster does, it's probably more accurate since it takes a lot more variables into account), 19219 floors, 399.89 miles.
As of 5/18
down 31.5 lbs. 104 hours 7 minutes of stairmaster/running, 76648 calories burned, 21807 floors of stairmaster (but doing a lot of running outside), 487.35 miles.
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Where did you guys get the idea you don't create new fat cells when you are an adult and that you can't completely eliminate a fat cell?
Because it's absolutely the truth. Once you mature, you no longer gain or lose fat cells, the ones you already have just grow and shrink.
Looks like I'm still alone out here. I've still been doing no carbs during the week and it's speeding the weight loss right along. I'm also prepping for a 10 mile run on 7/31. I ran 9 miles a couple of weeks back so I'm feeling pretty good about being able to complete it without resorting to walking at any time. On the other hand, this particular race is NOTORIOUS for insane temps and humidity every year without fail. That kind of weather can tire one out very quickly. My mile times have dipped to as quick as an 8:30, but typically are more around 10:00 which is my goal for 7/31. I'd like to complete the run in 1:40, the last time I ran it was 2004 and my time then was (IIRC) a 1:51.
Started on 9/19/06
As of 10/24
down 11lbs. My spreadsheet tells me I've done 1012 minutes of stairmaster since 9/19 and burned 10835 calories (based on the loose estimate the stairmaster displays). I haven't been good about tracking floors climbed or miles, but we're over 3000 floors and 65 miles.
As of 11/22
down 16 lbs. 30 hours 58 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 21094 calories burned. 6320 floors, 143.13 miles.
My diet still sucks.
As of 12/28
down 19.5 lbs. 49 hours 18 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 35112 calories burned. 10583 floors. 231.82 miles. I may really need to start adjusting my diet soon. I was actually the same weight I am today on Thanksgiving day, but then went up and have spent the last month getting back to where I was.
As of 2/21
down 22.5lbs (about the same as on 1/21), 66 hours 32 minutes on the stairmaster, 47548 calories burned. 14410 floors. 311.48 miles.
As of 4/5
down 28.5 lbs. About halfway to my goal. Nice that my pants waist size finally starts with a 3 again! My diet still isn't great but I've stopped going out to eat for lunch all the time. On Monday I go to the supermarket and buy deli meats and have a sandwich every day except Friday generally. Still not a great diet, but it's an improvement.
87 hours 26 minutes of stairmaster, 62928 stairmaster calories burned (Suunto Training Manager tells me I'm burning more calories than the stairmaster does, it's probably more accurate since it takes a lot more variables into account), 19219 floors, 399.89 miles.
As of 5/18
down 31.5 lbs. 104 hours 7 minutes of stairmaster/running, 76648 calories burned, 21807 floors of stairmaster (but doing a lot of running outside), 487.35 miles.
7/13/07
down 40 lbs*. 127 hours 21 minutes of stairmaster/running, 97367 calories burned, 25305 floors of stairmaster (still running outside though), 613.48 miles. I have about 25 to go before my goal weight of 190.
As of 6/25, my Stairmaster fit test still tells me my fitness level is low with a METS of 8.8. Absurd! As far as I'm concerned, any 40 year old (or anyone for that matter) that can run 9 miles is in great cardio/aerobic shape.
* note - low carb diets involve a lot of water weight because carbs absorb water. with no carbs in my system, there's minimal storage of water, so if I start eating carbs, within 2 days I will immediately gain several pounds in water weight.
Started on 9/19/06
As of 10/24
down 11lbs. My spreadsheet tells me I've done 1012 minutes of stairmaster since 9/19 and burned 10835 calories (based on the loose estimate the stairmaster displays). I haven't been good about tracking floors climbed or miles, but we're over 3000 floors and 65 miles.
As of 11/22
down 16 lbs. 30 hours 58 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 21094 calories burned. 6320 floors, 143.13 miles.
My diet still sucks.
As of 12/28
down 19.5 lbs. 49 hours 18 minutes spent on the stairmaster. 35112 calories burned. 10583 floors. 231.82 miles. I may really need to start adjusting my diet soon. I was actually the same weight I am today on Thanksgiving day, but then went up and have spent the last month getting back to where I was.
As of 2/21
down 22.5lbs (about the same as on 1/21), 66 hours 32 minutes on the stairmaster, 47548 calories burned. 14410 floors. 311.48 miles.
As of 4/5
down 28.5 lbs. About halfway to my goal. Nice that my pants waist size finally starts with a 3 again! My diet still isn't great but I've stopped going out to eat for lunch all the time. On Monday I go to the supermarket and buy deli meats and have a sandwich every day except Friday generally. Still not a great diet, but it's an improvement.
87 hours 26 minutes of stairmaster, 62928 stairmaster calories burned (Suunto Training Manager tells me I'm burning more calories than the stairmaster does, it's probably more accurate since it takes a lot more variables into account), 19219 floors, 399.89 miles.
As of 5/18
down 31.5 lbs. 104 hours 7 minutes of stairmaster/running, 76648 calories burned, 21807 floors of stairmaster (but doing a lot of running outside), 487.35 miles.
7/13/07
down 40 lbs*. 127 hours 21 minutes of stairmaster/running, 97367 calories burned, 25305 floors of stairmaster (still running outside though), 613.48 miles. I have about 25 to go before my goal weight of 190.
As of 6/25, my Stairmaster fit test still tells me my fitness level is low with a METS of 8.8. Absurd! As far as I'm concerned, any 40 year old (or anyone for that matter) that can run 9 miles is in great cardio/aerobic shape.
* note - low carb diets involve a lot of water weight because carbs absorb water. with no carbs in my system, there's minimal storage of water, so if I start eating carbs, within 2 days I will immediately gain several pounds in water weight.
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Robr - keep up the good work! There were some interesting control group studies published last week about diet and basically increasing quantities of fruits and vegetables (especially ones with higher water content). I lost 5 lbs this week just cutting out all alcohol and eating whole grains, vegetables, and fruit for 2 of the 3 meals (and snacks). I actually am eating more food - just better food. Also a great percentage of my fat calories come from nuts and other non animal sources. Much better for us and I love summer fruits and veggies so it is no sacrifice for me!
Also - there is TONS of evidence about sleep and stress and how the body stores and maintains fat. Again - new studies published last week tell us there is more then just calories in and calories out (although I believe that is 80-90% of it). Bottom line is if you can manage your stress and get a decent amount of sleep you will do better.
Good luck to everyone!
Also - there is TONS of evidence about sleep and stress and how the body stores and maintains fat. Again - new studies published last week tell us there is more then just calories in and calories out (although I believe that is 80-90% of it). Bottom line is if you can manage your stress and get a decent amount of sleep you will do better.
Good luck to everyone!
I intend to a couple of days prior, however I hate just about everything that has a low glycemic index. I am going to give whole wheat pasta a shot this weekend, but I fully expect to hate it
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Good for you Rob...you are cruisin'.
"For the longest time researchers thought that fat cells were kind of like height: you kept adding to them until you passed puberty, then stopped. But a 2004 study published in the American Journal of Physiology: Endocrinology and Metabolism found that people actually create new fat cells throughout their adult lives. When a fat cell is full to bursting (i.e., period size), it sends a chemical signal to surrounding tissue to create new ones. While an average nonoverweight adult has roughly 30 to 40 billion fat cells, someone who's very obese might have as many as 100 billion. And once you've got a fat cell, there's no way to get rid of it — even by losing weight — unless you suck it out."
source: womens health mag.
source: womens health mag.
So... I ran the 10 miler on 7/31, I didn't do nearly as well as I had hoped (or as well as I did in 2004), but I crossed the finish line on my own two feet, so at least there's that. I'm sort of falling apart in my dicipline and focus... I haven't been working out 5 days a week, my eating has gone to hell, and because I've been eating carbs all that water weight is back on. On 7/13 I was down 40 lbs, today on 8/22 I am only down a total of 28 lbs. Not too psyched about that. I'm getting bored out of my skull with this stairmaster and have been watching craigslist for a good deal on a quality treadmill to add to my office. I think having the goal of the 10 mile run helped keep me in line, I suspect a new goal would help.
Off to stairmaster for the 3rd day this week, we're getting 5 workouts in this week if it kills me.
Off to stairmaster for the 3rd day this week, we're getting 5 workouts in this week if it kills me.
Congratulations on your ten mile run and you weight loss. As you have realized consistency is the key. Everyone gets sidetracked every now and then. It happens especially when you are getting bored with your workout, have you considered doing adding a HIT or High Intensity Training to your program? Just to mix it up. I am actively dropping weight, I am down 13 lbs and want to drop another 11 by the end of October. At the rate I am going I shouldn't have too much problem but sometimes that last five can be a royal pain. My general rule of thumb on food is that I try not to eat processed foods, some exceptions such as supplements. However this is what I have been doing, eating 5 to 6 times a day and its working for me. I also puprosely add fat to my diet, good not bad.
Keep us posted on your progress.
I think I have read most of these interesting posts. It's a great topic. I am 48 and found myself about 25 lbs above my college graduation weight a few years ago. That's about 1 pound of weight gain per year. I had very high blood pressure and high cholesterol. I have generally maintained reasonable fitness over the years - usually from some gym work, racquetball (many years ago), cycling, and swimming. But I needed to stop/reverse the weight gain and reduce body fat.
I think way too many people overthink the problem. They worry about the type of wheat they consume. Or they buy into the promises of supplements. It IS a math problem. Weight gain occurs when calories consumed are greater than calories are expended. I believe there are individual variations of course, but if weight loss is the goal the math needs to change.
Someone already posted that one pound ~ 3500 calories. To lose one pound per weak you need to change the math by at least 500 calories per day. I say at least because if you are on weight gain cycle now a 500 calorie/day change may not achieve one pound per week. But it's still a good number to think about. 500 calories isn't really that much. It's 4 sodas. It's 4 beers. It's 2 or 3 candy bars. Or it is a 35 minute run at a 9 min/mile pace for someone 180 lbs.
Lots of people consume a huge amount of stupid calories every day. Get rid of those first. Add some exercise if you have none. I think weights are overall a poor choice to start with because most exercise novices don't know what they are doing and weights take too long to achieve calorie expenditure.
Lots of people yo-yo and the basic reason is they swing in extremes. They go on a big diet. Cottage cheese and egg whites, etc. Then they get sick of it all and put the weight back on. People need to think about permanent lifestyle changes that can be maintained. And set realistic goals (like one pound per week). Most people don't put weight on super-fast so they shouldn't try to take it off super fast.
My own deal is that I resumed swimming. I swim 4-5 times per week, about 15,000 yards total. I joined a Masters swim group and race 3-4 times a year. I eat smarter, but no radical changes to my intake. I still eat foods I like - ribeye steaks, red wine, "real" beer, etc. Just less of it and not as frequently. I love food/drink and it is important to have good food for my happiness. I'm down to 172 lbs for my 5'8 frame and most people think I'm fit. I'm not ripped by any means but my abs show. I finish in the top third of most of my swimming events in my age group. And with meds my BP and cholesterol is A-OK. No supplements except a daily vitamin and Omega-3 fish oil (recommended to me by two doctors).
Edit: Two websites that are helpful:
Exercise calorie estimator:
http://www.primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/jumpsite/calculat.htm
Calorie content of MANY foods:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/
I think way too many people overthink the problem. They worry about the type of wheat they consume. Or they buy into the promises of supplements. It IS a math problem. Weight gain occurs when calories consumed are greater than calories are expended. I believe there are individual variations of course, but if weight loss is the goal the math needs to change.
Someone already posted that one pound ~ 3500 calories. To lose one pound per weak you need to change the math by at least 500 calories per day. I say at least because if you are on weight gain cycle now a 500 calorie/day change may not achieve one pound per week. But it's still a good number to think about. 500 calories isn't really that much. It's 4 sodas. It's 4 beers. It's 2 or 3 candy bars. Or it is a 35 minute run at a 9 min/mile pace for someone 180 lbs.
Lots of people consume a huge amount of stupid calories every day. Get rid of those first. Add some exercise if you have none. I think weights are overall a poor choice to start with because most exercise novices don't know what they are doing and weights take too long to achieve calorie expenditure.
Lots of people yo-yo and the basic reason is they swing in extremes. They go on a big diet. Cottage cheese and egg whites, etc. Then they get sick of it all and put the weight back on. People need to think about permanent lifestyle changes that can be maintained. And set realistic goals (like one pound per week). Most people don't put weight on super-fast so they shouldn't try to take it off super fast.
My own deal is that I resumed swimming. I swim 4-5 times per week, about 15,000 yards total. I joined a Masters swim group and race 3-4 times a year. I eat smarter, but no radical changes to my intake. I still eat foods I like - ribeye steaks, red wine, "real" beer, etc. Just less of it and not as frequently. I love food/drink and it is important to have good food for my happiness. I'm down to 172 lbs for my 5'8 frame and most people think I'm fit. I'm not ripped by any means but my abs show. I finish in the top third of most of my swimming events in my age group. And with meds my BP and cholesterol is A-OK. No supplements except a daily vitamin and Omega-3 fish oil (recommended to me by two doctors).
Edit: Two websites that are helpful:
Exercise calorie estimator:
http://www.primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/jumpsite/calculat.htm
Calorie content of MANY foods:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/
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You should try udo's choice oil blend. Its what I use for my omega's, 3-6-9.
http://www.udoerasmus.com/products/oil_blend_en.htm
Please forgive the spelling mistakes( just got back from happy hour!! )Here is the thing that most people miss. Your body somewhere in the neighbor hood of 16-20 develops a target weight. With this being said you develop a consistancy that is hard to break. Forgive me for I have not read all the previous posts but, here are some ways for you to lose the weight. Eat less but, eat more often. For example, eat 5-6 times a day. Eat your breakfast but, eat well. Oatmeal works, granola bars etc.. eat an apple or two during the time between breakfast and lunch. Watch what you eat for lunch and again, eat a couple of pieces of fruit between lunch and dinner. The more you eat during the day in this manner will speed up your metabolism and help you to lose weight. Working out and making sure that you do at least 30 mins. of cardio will help as well. You do not have to do cardio everyday but, it will help you to lose the weight faster. There are of course other things that you can do but, it all depends on your level of comitment to what out come you are trying to achieve. The most important thing to any diet and workout plan is consistancy. You are only going to get out of it what you put into it. Phylosophy class over!!:biggrin:
Wow!! Hard to believe it's been over a year since my last update. Much of that was due to the embarrassment and frustration with my reverse progress. Over the past year, I've been continuing to exercise, but not as often as the prior year. My commitment just hasn't been there ... I'm looking at my log and I pretty much took the month of February off. By June 2008 I had put back on 20 of the 40lbs I had lost.
So I took a change in tactics and for the 4th time in my life, I'm back on phentermine. It's EXTREMELY difficult these days to find a doctor that will prescribe it, they were all scared out of their wits by the press coverage in the late 90s when it was found fenfluramine could cause primary pulmonary hypertension. Because the drug combo being prescribed at that time was referred to as phen/fen, the media didn't report that the problem was specifically with fen, they reported it as a problem with phen/fen. Now nobody will prescribe the phen part of the combo. I tried educating my PCP, pointing her at articles from NEJM and HMJ, but she wasn't interested. After 2 months of searching, I finally found a doctor (a real one, not a pill pusher) that specializes in bariatric medicine (she formerly was a family practice doctor and she is AWESOME). She won't take insurance, but most insurance won't pay for anything related to weight loss anyway.
So in the past month, I've kicked it back into high gear and lost the 20lbs I've regained over the past year. I'm back to where I was a year ago. Thanks to phen, I have no cravings for food, I'm not hungry all the time and can make better choices. Essentially I've been exercising 5-7 days/week (riding my bike to work a lot, a 14 mile round trip), living on Slimfast & protein bars 4x/day and eating a small dinner. Yeah, still not great but what can I say, I dislike most foods, especially the healthy ones. Interestingly enough, before I started on the phen, they did blood work and it was nice to see at least the last 2 years of exercise has helped my cholesterol, which was 156.
Being that every time I take phen, once I go off I eventually regain the weight, I'm going to have to look into the possibility of staying on it permanently if there aren't any health reasons to preclude that. My previous food bills were more than my medical bills anyway.
I'd update the exercise log that I had been posting, but the last 7 months are written on the whiteboard I'm staring at and I don't feel like putting them all into the spreadsheet. One of those things I've been procrastinating on.
The 10 mile race is next week and I'm debating on it, I don't think I'm ready this time around. I've done a number of 5Ks this year, but I haven't worked my distance up at all so I will probably just do the 5K this year.
So I took a change in tactics and for the 4th time in my life, I'm back on phentermine. It's EXTREMELY difficult these days to find a doctor that will prescribe it, they were all scared out of their wits by the press coverage in the late 90s when it was found fenfluramine could cause primary pulmonary hypertension. Because the drug combo being prescribed at that time was referred to as phen/fen, the media didn't report that the problem was specifically with fen, they reported it as a problem with phen/fen. Now nobody will prescribe the phen part of the combo. I tried educating my PCP, pointing her at articles from NEJM and HMJ, but she wasn't interested. After 2 months of searching, I finally found a doctor (a real one, not a pill pusher) that specializes in bariatric medicine (she formerly was a family practice doctor and she is AWESOME). She won't take insurance, but most insurance won't pay for anything related to weight loss anyway.
So in the past month, I've kicked it back into high gear and lost the 20lbs I've regained over the past year. I'm back to where I was a year ago. Thanks to phen, I have no cravings for food, I'm not hungry all the time and can make better choices. Essentially I've been exercising 5-7 days/week (riding my bike to work a lot, a 14 mile round trip), living on Slimfast & protein bars 4x/day and eating a small dinner. Yeah, still not great but what can I say, I dislike most foods, especially the healthy ones
. Interestingly enough, before I started on the phen, they did blood work and it was nice to see at least the last 2 years of exercise has helped my cholesterol, which was 156.Being that every time I take phen, once I go off I eventually regain the weight, I'm going to have to look into the possibility of staying on it permanently if there aren't any health reasons to preclude that. My previous food bills were more than my medical bills anyway.
I'd update the exercise log that I had been posting, but the last 7 months are written on the whiteboard I'm staring at and I don't feel like putting them all into the spreadsheet. One of those things I've been procrastinating on.
The 10 mile race is next week and I'm debating on it, I don't think I'm ready this time around. I've done a number of 5Ks this year, but I haven't worked my distance up at all so I will probably just do the 5K this year.
Yeah, tell me about it... :frown:
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It's always a battle for me... I remember when I bought my NSX and flew out there, we went out to dinner and I vividly recall that at the time I was weighing in at 220# after having lost a lot of weight already. That was a big dinner
. Well here it is 11 (?) years later (wow!! hard to believe it was that long ago) and I've lost 3 lbs since then . Or actually lost 20, gained 75, lost 105 (thanks feds), gained back 80, then lost 40ish, gained 20 and then lost 20. (does math in head again... something like that!)It's always a battle for me... I remember when I bought my NSX and flew out there, we went out to dinner and I vividly recall that at the time I was weighing in at 220# after having lost a lot of weight already. That was a big dinner
Once you change your diet to a "healthy" one, you have to do it forever, or risk the weight coming back on again.
Same with the exercise portion of a weight loss plan. That's why it is so important to make permanent lifestyle changes that will result in better fitness for life rather than simply dieting and exercising just to reach a particular goal. Managed weight is the journey, not the destination.
It's harsh, but I have conceded to myself that I will never eat a whole XL pizza by myself again, ever, and I will always have to go to the gym 3-5 times per week, for the rest of my freaking life.
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Quick update.... now down about 50 lbs and have a 36" waist again, approx 15-20 lbs to go. I've been doing a ton of running lately, and ran several 5Ks over the summer and a 5 miler the other weekend (I have a giant pile of shirts from all these events now!!). Tomorrow I actually have two 5Ks to run, one at 11am, and then another 1 town over at noon. Going to be cutting that one pretty close! I actually did a 5 mile run today to go register for one of the races tomorrow . My mile times for a 5K have dropped to a sub-9 (and even a sub 7 for the first mile of 3 running on a track), my 5 mile runs are around a 9-9:15. I'm extremely happy with the progress I've been making lately and I think much of it not only has to do with the loss of weight, but also because I had been riding my bicycle to work 3 or 4 days a week (14 miles/day) all summer until it started getting sooooo cold out in the AM. I picked up some warm weather exercise clothing over the weekend and will give it a shot, but I just HATE the cold. I realize you warm up pretty quickly, but still.... it's so cold to start . The phentermine worked wonders for the first few months, but the effects have really started to diminish, so the diet has once again gotten more difficult, but I'm exercising like a fiend these days. I'm also looking for a decent weight set on craigslist to put in my office to add to my regimen.
lrsudog. you are absolutely right, and I know this will be a problem going forward. I just wish my wife was into exercising, but she's not and she's one of those people that can eat whatever she wants and not gain a pound. I have a running buddy now that is the husband of a new friend of my wife's and he's been a huge asset in keeping me motivated, but I'm also now to the point where running has become enjoying and and escape, rather than exhausting and I look forward to running rather than the end of the run. I just need to stick with it through the winter, that's going to be my next battle. I have a treadmill in my office which I used to enjoy, but now it's become BORING. I can't wait to get off that thing when I have to run on it.
There really needs to be one site where I can look up race results. These are some, but not all of them from the past several months:
Cool Running :: Dorothy's Run 5K Race Results, Oct 19
66 ROB r. M 172 NEWBURYPORT MA 28:57 9:21
* started race approx 3 minutes late and had to catch up - approx 8:20/mi*
Cool Running :: Apple Harvest 5-Miler Race Results, Oct 5
206 Rob r. 176 42/54 124/160 41 M Newburyport MA 46:10 9:14
Cool Running :: Yankee Homecoming 5K Race Results, Jul 29
1103 2190 ROB r. 40 M 83/103 M4044 BYFIELD MA 32:09 10:21
Cool Running :: Appleton Farms 5K Race Results, Jun 28
154 39/44 M4099 31:49 10:16 ROB r. 40 M 73 NEWBURYPORT MA
Hampton Falls Road Race, May 10, 2008
65 289 ROB r. M 40 7/7 M4049 NEWBURYPORT MA 34:58 9:43
*partial cross country pushing stroller*
Cool Running :: Spring Fever 5k and Family Fun Run Race Results, May 4
170 Rob r. 40 M 32:19 10:22
Cool Running :: Chase the Gorilla Down Argilla 5K Race Results, Apr 19
284 135 Rob r. 74/78 M4099 41 M Newburyport MA 34:21 11:05
*pushing stroller*
. My mile times for a 5K have dropped to a sub-9 (and even a sub 7 for the first mile of 3 running on a track), my 5 mile runs are around a 9-9:15. I'm extremely happy with the progress I've been making lately and I think much of it not only has to do with the loss of weight, but also because I had been riding my bicycle to work 3 or 4 days a week (14 miles/day) all summer until it started getting sooooo cold out in the AM. I picked up some warm weather exercise clothing over the weekend and will give it a shot, but I just HATE the cold. I realize you warm up pretty quickly, but still.... it's so cold to start . The phentermine worked wonders for the first few months, but the effects have really started to diminish, so the diet has once again gotten more difficult, but I'm exercising like a fiend these days. I'm also looking for a decent weight set on craigslist to put in my office to add to my regimen.lrsudog. you are absolutely right, and I know this will be a problem going forward. I just wish my wife was into exercising, but she's not and she's one of those people that can eat whatever she wants and not gain a pound. I have a running buddy now that is the husband of a new friend of my wife's and he's been a huge asset in keeping me motivated, but I'm also now to the point where running has become enjoying and and escape, rather than exhausting and I look forward to running rather than the end of the run. I just need to stick with it through the winter, that's going to be my next battle. I have a treadmill in my office which I used to enjoy, but now it's become BORING. I can't wait to get off that thing when I have to run on it.
There really needs to be one site where I can look up race results. These are some, but not all of them from the past several months:
Cool Running :: Dorothy's Run 5K Race Results, Oct 19
66 ROB r. M 172 NEWBURYPORT MA 28:57 9:21
* started race approx 3 minutes late and had to catch up - approx 8:20/mi*
Cool Running :: Apple Harvest 5-Miler Race Results, Oct 5
206 Rob r. 176 42/54 124/160 41 M Newburyport MA 46:10 9:14
Cool Running :: Yankee Homecoming 5K Race Results, Jul 29
1103 2190 ROB r. 40 M 83/103 M4044 BYFIELD MA 32:09 10:21
Cool Running :: Appleton Farms 5K Race Results, Jun 28
154 39/44 M4099 31:49 10:16 ROB r. 40 M 73 NEWBURYPORT MA
Hampton Falls Road Race, May 10, 2008
65 289 ROB r. M 40 7/7 M4049 NEWBURYPORT MA 34:58 9:43
*partial cross country pushing stroller*
Cool Running :: Spring Fever 5k and Family Fun Run Race Results, May 4
170 Rob r. 40 M 32:19 10:22
Cool Running :: Chase the Gorilla Down Argilla 5K Race Results, Apr 19
284 135 Rob r. 74/78 M4099 41 M Newburyport MA 34:21 11:05
*pushing stroller*
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this is definitely a good thread. I think we should post some photos of BEFORE and AFTER shots of some workout photos.
Anyone dare to be the brave one and begin? :biggrin:
Anyone dare to be the brave one and begin? :biggrin:
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