Newbie may have found an NSX....need your opinions please!!! JH4NA216XWT000224

[HockeyGoalie]

Just wanted to introduce myself. I am a long time lurker and finally was able to join nsxprime (I would always try to register but it would reject my email address). Everyone on this board seems extremely knowledgable regarding the NSX.

I've loved the car ever since I test drove a 2000 or 2001 back in Sept of 2000. I've done a bunch of searches on this board to learn the differences between the NA1 and the NA2.

I am currently looking at a 98 NSX-T. Black with Tan interior, 6 speed. Vin # JH4NA216XWT000224. It has 62k miles on it and dealer is asking $42,888.

Car Fax is clean but it seems like it was taken to the dealer a lot for service in 2002? Why?

I'm not in a rush to buy. I'd rather wait to find the perfect car, preferably a NA2. My bduget is around $40k give or take. Does this look like a good car?

Here is the link to the ad and the car fax is below. Please give me your opinions. thanks.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...08&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=94

1998 ACURA NSX-T
JH4NA216XWT000224
COUPE
3.2L V6 PFI DOHC 24V / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
CARFAX Safety & Reliability Report Acura Certified Pre-Owned Vehicle - 11/01/2002

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The last reported odometer reading was 62,743







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Year purchased 1998 2003 2007
Type of owner Lease --- ---
Estimated length of ownership 3 yrs. 11 mo. 4 yrs. 3 mo. 6 days
Owned in the following states/provinces New Jersey, New Hampshire New Jersey New Jersey
Estimated miles driven per year 6,935/yr 8,030/yr ---
Last reported odometer reading 29,138 60,000 62,743




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Owner 1
Purchased: 1998
Type: Lease
Where: New Jersey
Est. miles/year: 7,300/yr
Est. length owned: 11/6/98 - 1/6/01
(2 yrs. 2 mo.)




Good News - Low mileage! This owner drove an estimated 7,300 miles per year, lower than industry average of 15,000 miles. These vehicles can be a better value.
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
11/06/1998 17 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Newark, DE Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Registered as
lease vehicle
01/06/2001 16,605 Dealer Inventory
Nashua, NH Vehicle offered for sale
01/10/2001 New Hampshire
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Manchester, NH



Vehicle purchase reported




Owner 2
Purchased: 2001
Where: New Hampshire
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 1/10/01 - 6/29/01
(5 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
01/10/2001 16,617 New Hampshire
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Manchester, NH
Title #08552621 Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
01/12/2001 Dealer Inventory
Nashua, NH Vehicle offered for sale
02/07/2001 New Hampshire
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Goffstown, NH
Title #08552621 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
02/07/2001 New Hampshire
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Manchester, NH
Title #08552621 Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as Black
06/29/2001 19,933 Dealer Inventory
Nashua, NH Vehicle offered for sale
08/16/2001 Dealer Inventory
Nashua, NH Vehicle offered for sale
08/20/2001 20,509 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Engine serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Brakes serviced
Exhaust system serviced




Owner 3
Purchased: 2001
Where: New Jersey
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 8/31/01 - 11/1/02
(1 yr. 2 mo.)




Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
08/31/2001 21,000 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Maple Shade, NJ
Title #DA20012430240 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
10/17/2001 22,753 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
04/26/2002 23,679 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Transmission serviced
Engine serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
06/28/2002 25,129 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Suspension system serviced
09/30/2002 28,260 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
11/01/2002 29,000 Acura Certified Dealer Offered for sale as an Acura Certified Pre-Owned Vehicle
01/09/2003 29,138 Dealer Inventory
Maple Shade, NJ Vehicle offered for sale
03/01/2003 Elite Acura
Maple Shade, NJ
856-722-9600
www.eliteacura.com Vehicle sold




Owner 4
Purchased: 2003
Where: New Jersey
Est. miles/year: 8,030/yr
Est. length owned: 3/12/03 - 7/6/07
(4 yrs. 3 mo.)




Good News - Low mileage! This owner drove an estimated 8,030 miles per year, lower than industry average of 15,000 miles. These vehicles can be a better value.
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
03/12/2003 29,183 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Medford, NJ
Title #ME20030710650 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
03/17/2003 29,317 Inspection Co.
New Jersey Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
05/07/2003 30,598 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
08/06/2003 32,977 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
09/12/2003 33,757 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
10/20/2003 34,678 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
12/18/2003 34,698 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
03/26/2004 37,733 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Brakes serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
11/03/2006 59,215 Elite Acura
Maple Shade, NJ
856-722-9600
www.eliteacura.com Vehicle serviced
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Air filter replaced
Air and fuel filters replaced
Washed/detailed
12/20/2006 60,000 Elite Acura
Maple Shade, NJ
856-722-9600
www.eliteacura.com Vehicle serviced
Washed/detailed
07/06/2007 Dealer Inventory
Cherry Hill, NJ Vehicle offered for sale




Owner 5
Purchased: 2007
Where: New Jersey
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 7/10/07 - present
(6 days)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/10/2007 62,743 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cherry Hill, NJ
Title #CA20071910012 Title issued or updated
New owner reported


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[Matt_337]

Re: Newbie may have found an NSX....need your opinions please!!!

It could mean owner #3 was very picky and also wanted to get stuff taken care of before the warranty expired.

 

[kye]

Re: Newbie may have found an NSX....need your opinions please!!!

For me its seems a few thousand to expensive with the mileage, also no mods done etc, I think that if you keep scanning the PRIME for sale forum you will find the perfect car eventually with maybe some tasty mods that you would want aswell.
Guess the owner in 2002 just liked to maintain well. What was done ?
//Kye

 

[ExCfive]

Re: Newbie may have found an NSX....need your opinions please!!!

For me its seems a few thousand to expensive with the mileage, also no mods done etc, I think that if you keep scanning the PRIME for sale forum you will find the perfect car eventually with maybe some tasty mods that you would want aswell.
Guess the owner in 2002 just liked to maintain well. What was done ?
//Kye

Maybe a bit high on the asking price, however for me I prefer and made certain that I purchased a vehicle with no mods. That way it is done the way I want, not the PO. Good luck with what ever you decide!!

 

[slamstrom]

Re: Newbie may have found an NSX....need your opinions please!!!

Welcome aboard. The 3rd owner probably is doing 30K recommended service early from the mileage log on your post. The car looks clean. Mileage is a little high for a 98 (my opinion). My 97 has only 15K miles (skewing the curve) - the 2nd owner put less than 4000 miles in 7 years (that helps to keep the mileage down on mine). I think most Prime members put less than 7500 mile per year. Since this is a dealer, offer them $40,000 and see what they say. A $40,000 offer is not a ridiculous offer where they are going to laugh in your face. Good luck with your search.:smile:

 

[HockeyGoalie]

Re: Newbie may have found an NSX....need your opinions please!!!

Thanks for the replyies. Please keep them coming!!!

 

[FeetFxr]

Offer $38K, get a little laugh, then meet in the middle around $40. Looks nice. Good luck!

 

[SWIFTVISION]

42k for a 98? Thats a good deal.

 

[HockeyGoalie]

What's the best financing for a 98 NSX?

 

[ralph cerbone]

ok heres the deal , no one can tell you what to spend with out seeing it , i spent last sat . checking it out. car is in good condition , needs timing belt serv .as per elite acura in maple shade n.j. ( dealer who ser. vehicle for last owner) i do not want a black one but i wanted to let my wife see it and take her for a ride . the car felt good, motor strong ,no problem with clutch or synchros in tranny,but this car has seen weather,the drivers side window did bind in the closing mode,a/c was blowing at 42 degrees , they had some monkey clean the engine comp. and blew the paint off the valve covers Iguess they never heard of simple green ) also the front facia has been repainted but thats to be expected i dont think the owner beat it i think he treated it like a honda and drove it. i know you can get it for less than their asking price because they want it off their lot and i felt they were pretty decent guys to deal with. i hope i gave you a little insight ,good luck
ralph

 

[ralph cerbone]

also i spoke to amy at elite acura in maple shade she knows the car and told me she would do the ppi for 95$ which i def. recommend
Ralph C

 

[HockeyGoalie]

thanks for the description. The dealer did tell me someone came down from New York to look at it on Saturday.

When you say the A/c was blowing at 42 degrees. Do you mean it was working great, nice and cold, or that there is a problem with the A/C?

How do I fix the drivers side window bind?

I'm not 100% sold on Black, probably my last color choice (too hard to keep clean).

 

[HockeyGoalie]

What do you think changing the timing belt and water pump would cost? $1,500? $3,000?

 

[davidf]

When I picked up mine the TB/WP service had been recently performed and the the receipt was for $2,010 from an Acura dealer.

 

[ralph cerbone]

sorry for the confusion ,a/c blowing 42 degrees, in local traffic is good, if i was on a highway cruising and turned blower speed down i am sure i see 38-40 at center duct , as far as the window i am not sure until the door panel is removed , it maybe as simple as lubricating the window track system ( it only binds at a certain postion in its travel)or maybe the window reg is tired ( which can be expensive) the passenger side window seems ok
Ralph C

 

[NSXFRIEND]

I spoke with their manager. One of the rear quarter panels has been repainted, one of the techs noticed while on the lift. The owner had 4 nsx at one time traded it on a porsche. Not much for records. They did say 40k is acceptable but probably will take 38, I do like the interior, but price goes up after timing belt service, your call good luck.

 

[JJCTHE1]

sounds way too cheap, i wont buy an nsx w paintwork, its probably been hit, also does that say 5 owners??????????????????

 

[Stephen@NCAutoUSA]

sounds way too cheap, i wont buy an nsx w paintwork, its probably been hit, also does that say 5 owners??????????????????

5 owners doesn't mean to much since there's tons of situations for selling a car. I mean yes, the chance of someone just buying it and dumping it because of problems is greater since that increases as the number of owners increases, but I'm the 4th owner of my nsx and it runs like a champ.

Good luck with your purchase

Stephen

 

[HockeyGoalie]

sorry for the confusion ,a/c blowing 42 degrees, in local traffic is good, if i was on a highway cruising and turned blower speed down i am sure i see 38-40 at center duct , as far as the window i am not sure until the door panel is removed , it maybe as simple as lubricating the window track system ( it only binds at a certain postion in its travel)or maybe the window reg is tired ( which can be expensive) the passenger side window seems ok
Ralph C

thanks

 

[HockeyGoalie]

The owner had 4 nsx at one time traded it on a porsche.

Really, I just bought a porsche last year.

 

[Big_D]

5 owners doesn't mean to much since there's tons of situations for selling a car. I mean yes, the chance of someone just buying it and dumping it because of problems is greater since that increases as the number of owners increases, but I'm the 4th owner of my nsx and it runs like a champ.

Good luck with your purchase

Stephen

+1 :smile: I am Owner #4 also and my car is fabulous.

 

[HockeyGoalie]

I spoke with their manager. One of the rear quarter panels has been repainted, .

If one of the rear quarter panels has been repainted, does this mean it was in some type of accident?

If that's the case, maybe i should wait until I find a better one.

 

[ralph cerbone]

maybe it was an unreported accident,maybe just a repair for scratches , i didnt have car on lift so i can't tell you if qtr. panel was changed , i can tell you the front fascia was removed and painted but thats not unusual, you can take car to a body shop and have them inspect it or get in touch with last owner (assuming he had it painted --- amy at elite acura might be able to help) . i ve been looking for an nsx for almost a year ,i am in no hurry, but if that car had been red,silver or white it would be in tarrytown now,
Ralph C

 

[Chilln92]

Looks like a clean nsx if the color combo is what you're looking for. Service and carfax seems to check out. Yes, some owners are pickier and usually service their car more often than others..which is a good thing (ie..preventative maint., etc.) However, I would offer 39 K and give them space to move up, but no more than 40 K due to mileage. Good luck!!