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The $14,000 NSX! What do you think?

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The weirdest thing happened to me on Sunday; Im driving home from the mall and I see an NSX with a FOR SALE sign on it around the corner from my house. For starters, there is under 2000 people in Helmetta, NJ and the odds of seeing another NSX around is rare enough in its own right;but for sale is another tale in its own. The NSX is a 92 in Grand Prix White and its a total roach. The car is showing 58,xxx miles and is rough. It has the Wings West side skirts, lip and rear valence all in poor condition. The roof is painted white and the previous owner must have used a MAACO and they painted over all the trim items that should be black. It has NSX-R door emblems, DC sports exhaust, lowered, cross drilled rotors, and a RACTIVE intake. The motor sounds strong but the car needs a cluth/flywheel/master cylinder :confused: and its doesnt drive right now. The owner was asking $19k and when I asked him how negotiable; he said he'd sell it for $13k-$14k :eek: I ran the CARFAX and the title is SALVAGE and the miles are TMU but I figured I have enough same parts left over from mine but I can easily make another NSX-a TYPE-R project and own 2 NSX's :biggrin:

Im closing on a new house on thursday and still havent sold my current home so Im a little tapped right now. If the car is still there when my condo sells, im picking it up regardless....

So my question is; do I struggle or apply to ELOAN for this car or is it not worth the money? Im never selling my NSX; I repeat, never selling mine and had thought about buying another one sometime in the future.

What should I do?
 
i would pass.

if you can do the work yourself or at a discount through the dealership it might be a good purchase but the salvage title is ugly. Do you know what kind of accident?

You have over 2100 posts so you know your thing and really do not need to ask us if this is a good deal or not. Im sure you already know :D

Good luck either way.
 
RON98 said:
You have over 2100 posts so you know your thing and really do not need to ask us if this is a good deal or not. Im sure you already know :D
.

Im looking for peer pressure :biggrin: The timing is just so wrong :mad: I wouldnt sell it so the salvage and TMU dont really bother me.
 
Re: The $14,000 NSX! What do you think? i think not, therefore i am

atleast you can drive an nsx thru the winter... :biggrin:

like you really need a headache, mr. mike?? pass.

some pix would be nice!
 
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ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.


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The story of this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615) according to our interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
This coupe has had 3 owners and was owned in Texas, North Carolina and New Jersey. The first title for this coupe was reported to CARFAX by a Texas DMV in 1992.
It was severely damaged and issued a Salvage and Junk title by a DMV.
It was issued a Not Actual Mileage title by a Texas DMV. This title is issued when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
CARFAX found an inconsistent odometer reading. CARFAX is uncertain whether this reading represents a rollback or a source-level clerical error.
It was not reported by a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback or LEMON.
Its original manufacturer warranty was voided after it was severely damaged.
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Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK

Total Loss Check Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported by a DMV
Other Accident Indicators No Accident Indicators Reported
2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK

Truth-In-Mileage Check Odometer Problems Reported by a DMV
Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found
3. LEMON CHECK®
No Mfr. Buyback Reported by a DMV
4. OWNERSHIP CHECK

Number of Owners 3 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Checked 8 Types of Vehicle Registrations
5. RECALL CHECK
ACURA Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX
DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 10 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED







Year/Make/Model: 1992 ACURA NSX

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 3.0L V6 PFI DOHC 24V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: JAPAN
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Driver front air bag/passenger side active (manual) belt

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer





Total Loss Check:


ALERT! Severe damage events were reported by a DMV for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.

Salvage Title Reported No Loss Due To Fire Title Reported
Junk Title Reported No Flood Damage Title Reported
No Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Reported No Hail Damage Title Reported
No Dismantled Title Reported No Canadian Total Loss Record Reported

Other Accident Indicators:


This 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615) had no accident indicators reported to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or professional mechanic is recommended.

No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Automotive Recycler Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
No Frame Damage Record Reported No Collision Repair Facility Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported

CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one of these sources has different processing times. CARFAX can only report what is in our database on 28.Nov.2005 15:58:56. New data will result in a change to this report.






Truth-In-Mileage Check:


ALERT! Major odometer problems were reported by a DMV under the Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.

Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an odometer rollover.


Odometer Rollback Check:


CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

Mileage Consistency Check:


CARFAX analyzed the mileage history for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615) and found an inconsistent odometer reading. CARFAX is uncertain whether this is a rollback or a source-level clerical error. Please verify this mileage with your dealer or a qualified mechanic.

Reading reported on 04/16/1994: 92,000 miles
Inconsistent reading on 03/12/1998: 27,051 miles
Reading reported on 06/26/1998: 28,091 miles









No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615).






Ownership History:


CARFAX estimates that this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615) had 3 owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S. privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 07/02/1992 Texas
2nd owner 12/30/1998 North Carolina
3rd owner 06/06/2003 New Jersey

Types of Owners:


This 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615) was checked for 8 types of registrations.

No Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
No Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record Reported






ACURA does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
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CARFAX searched more than 4 billion records from over 7,600 sources and found 10 record(s) for this 1992 ACURA NSX (JH4NA1153NT000615).

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:


07/02/1992 48 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #35361297
Title or registration issued
First owner reported


04/16/1994 92,000 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Dallas, TX
Title #00022200042324774
Title or registration issued


10/27/1997 27,045 Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Grand Prairie, TX
Title #29704235728155626
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED

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A NAM title is issued when the owner discloses mileage fraud or a broken odometer to a DMV. The actual mileage of this vehicle is unknown.

Mileage reported after this reading is potentially unreliable.


03/12/1998 27,051 New York
Inspection Station
New York City Area
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
INCONSISTENT ODOMETER READING

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CARFAX analyzed this mileage history and is uncertain whether this reading represents a rollback or a clerical error. Please verify the mileage with your dealer or a qualified mechanic.

06/26/1998 28,091 New York
Inspection Station
New York City Area
Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection

View what was inspected

12/30/1998 27,405 North Carolina
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Greensboro, NC
Title #774307990467076
New owner reported
NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED


03/01/2001 46,338 Service Facility
Vehicle serviced


04/30/2001 49,121 North Carolina
Inspection Station
Greensboro, NC
Passed emissions inspection


06/06/2003 52,000 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Helmetta, NJ
Title #EB20031570035
Title issued or updated
New owner reported


Not Reported Texas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED


Detailed Vehicle History Definitions:

First Owner
When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.

Junk Title
A Junk Title is issued on a vehicle damaged to the extent that the cost of repairing the vehicle for safe operation exceeds its fair market value; or a vehicle that has been declared a Total Loss by an insurer or other state or jurisdiction. Some states treat Junk titles the same as Salvage but the majority use this title to indicate that a vehicle is not road worthy and cannot be titled again in that state.

Mileage Inconsistency
If a more recent odometer reading is less than an older reading but CARFAX is uncertain whether the discrepancy is a rollback or a clerical error, then CARFAX calls it a "Mileage Inconsistency". In this case, you should verify the mileage with your dealer or a qualified mechanic.

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Not Actual Mileage Title
When the seller certifies, under the Truth-in-Mileage Act, that the odometer reading is NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE. This may occur because the disclosed odometer reading was not accurate and verifiable.

Salvage Title
A Salvage Title is issued on a vehicle damaged to the extent that the cost of repairing the vehicle for safe operation exceeds its fair market value; or a vehicle that has been declared a Total Loss by an insurer or other state or jurisdiction. Some states treat Junk titles the same as Salvage but the majority use this title to indicate that a vehicle is not road worthy and cannot be titled again in that state. The following ten States also use Salvage titles to identify stolen vehicles - AZ, FL, GA, IL, MN, NJ, NM, NY, OK and OR.



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Do you think it might be possible that the 92,000 in 1994 might be in error? I mean... took delivery in 1992, thats allmost 50,000 a year? That seems like a HELL of a lot.
 
da3dalus said:
Do you think it might be possible that the 92,000 in 1994 might be in error? I mean... took delivery in 1992, thats allmost 50,000 a year? That seems like a HELL of a lot.

errors with Carfax I can get fixed if they are legitimate. Im thinking I can get the car right for $3000-$5000 :wink:
 
unlemming said:
Sounds like a perfect car for some SOS engine luvin


Ive got some plans for it as well :wink:

$1500- for used 02 style wheels
$100-200- paint rims white
$200-300- used lowering springs installed
$300 SOS front lip spoiler in CF/remove Wings West lip
$400 -dreamsportz CF rear spoiler
$1000 maximum to paint the roof back to black, drip moldings and pillars
$300- used side skirts
$1500-2000 for the clutch issue
$300 Dali CF center console with radio delete option

Really not all that bad :biggrin:

$5000-$6500 for everything
 
It was probably 9200 miles, not 92000....someone just made a mistake.
I'd be more worried about the salvage title.
 
DrVolkl said:
It was probably 9200 miles, not 92000....someone just made a mistake.
I'd be more worried about the salvage title.

There is definate paintwork all over this car but the frame seems straight
 
Hey Mike, I don't think Eloan or most banks will do car loans on salvaged cars. I've seen that car for sale on autotrader and ebay numerous times.

Are there any vehicles E-LOAN does not finance?
Yes, E-LOAN does not provide financing for the following vehicles: RV's, motor homes, ATV's, dirt bikes, Desertlites, commercial vehicles, vehicles for business use, boats, amphibious vehicles, taxis, limousines, camper vans, tow trucks, freight liners, tractor trailers, dump trucks, armored vehicles, conversion van's, salvaged, rebuilt or branded title vehicles, custom built motorcycles or kit cars that do not have a VIN or title issued. For boat or RV loans

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So if you buy it for 14 and put 6 onto it, you've got 20k. Can't you find a clean 92 for about 25? That would be a better option. You'd have a real hard time ever selling this one in the future.
 
PaulL said:
That would be a better option. You'd have a real hard time ever selling this one in the future.

I dont sell my cars, I collect them :biggrin: Wait to you see my garage pics next week :biggrin:
 
if you have no plans to sell, it'd be a nice project car, over buying a clean one for $26K and then making a project on top of that.


bring a dead one back from the dead!
 
Sounds like for what you want this car for it would be a great deal. It is obvious that you have great contacts on getting things fixed / painted so I don't see how you can go wrong.

You will end up with a great car for under 20K! Just do it!
 
Carguy! said:
Sounds like for what you want this car for it would be a great deal. It is obvious that you have great contacts on getting things fixed / painted so I don't see how you can go wrong.

You will end up with a great car for under 20K! Just do it!

Im offering $12k and ill let you know how it develops
 
might be worth Joe L taking a look at the body/frame, either way at 12k it would be worth it as a parts car.
 
Bring back the Elisha Cuthbert avatar and buy that car!

(Or send me the avatar and STILL buy the car...)

For someone with the means to make it worthwhile, especially a Prime member, and if the price is right, do it! You can keep us posted on the progress, and maybe we'll learn a thing or two.
 
docjohn said:
might be worth Joe L taking a look at the body/frame, either way at 12k it would be worth it as a parts car.

Im thinking of calling Larry B if my offer is accepted. Id rather pay $300 or so for him to come and look then get wrapped up in a severe money pit. Im trying to get one of my NSX Techs to swing by and look at it (although their's no one like Larry B)

Offer has been made, ill keep all posted
 
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