Encounter with cayman R
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Yeah call me qwirky but I love the endless 2nd gear pull on my 5spd. Really lets you appreciate the exhaust throughout the rev range.
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????330 hp / 273 lb.-ft. 2855 lbs.
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Our cars weigh more, have less hp and less torque. A new Cayman S pulls on me coming off the corners on the track, and a Cayman R is lighter and faster. So I don't think the NA2 is faster than a Cayman R (or a newer Cayman S for that matter).
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Maybe he shifted wrong? Or maybe my car has a special N/A horsepower rating lol
It's very odd actually. It's not like I'm an amazing driver or anything- I had a good experience with a 996gt3 also. He only pulled on my by a half to full car length. Which doesn't make sense because those are at 380hp.
Did I encounter two bad Porsche drivers? I had multiple runs with the cayman R and still got the best of him.
It's very odd actually. It's not like I'm an amazing driver or anything- I had a good experience with a 996gt3 also. He only pulled on my by a half to full car length. Which doesn't make sense because those are at 380hp.
Did I encounter two bad Porsche drivers? I had multiple runs with the cayman R and still got the best of him.
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There is no way NSX is faster than Cayman R. My NSX can't even keep up with Cayman S and mine had I/H/E.
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Next time I'll have to record such a run. Trust me I was in disbelief as well. That cayman r exhaust sounded awesome though.
I have extensive experience with Cayman S and GT3s (both 996 & 997) since I instruct for 4 regional PCA clubs. My 2000 NSX has the regular weight mods - I/H/E, remove spare, smaller battery, no jack kit, 2 piece rotors, JRZs, etc, etc. The first gen Cayman S is about matched with the NSX, maybe slightly faster. The second gen S is definitely faster and a 996 GT3 is noticeably faster still. Even when I'm solo and the 996 GT3 has a 200 lb passenger, they still pull on me by several car lengths. The 997 GT3 smokes me.
Here is a 996 GT3 with a passenger, and I'm solo and almost empty tank. Even though I can stay up (because this "instructor" actually has pretty poor lines) he still pulls considerably on the main straight.
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VS Cayman S (2nd gen)
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VS Cayman S (1st gen)
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Here is a 996 GT3 with a passenger, and I'm solo and almost empty tank. Even though I can stay up (because this "instructor" actually has pretty poor lines) he still pulls considerably on the main straight.
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VS Cayman S (2nd gen)
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VS Cayman S (1st gen)
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330 hp / 273 lb.-ft. 2855 lbs.
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Our cars weigh more, have less hp and less torque. A new Cayman S pulls on me coming off the corners on the track, and a Cayman R is lighter and faster. So I don't think the NA2 is faster than a Cayman R (or a newer Cayman S for that matter).
Pulling a right turn on this discussion for a moment. Captain, have you had your car dynoed? Just curious what the numbers are for a relatively stock NA2 that tracks regularly.
No, I haven't.
12.7 vs 12.9 is basically the same number.
I think some NSXs are more powerful than others. I've raced a few 400hp cars, and have never lost.
The engine in my 97 is stock.
Perhaps ya'll need to ask what the OP mod list looks like.
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Completely stock engine. This has happened on multiple occasions. I can't be that good of a shifter-driver. Some people maybe just can't drive? Lol
Maybe it was the size of said Porsche drivers balls? I now I wouldn't be inclined to beat the shit outta my newly acquired cayman r, especially if I still was paying it off.
I'm also talking about peripheral mods (ie- intake, exhaust, etc.....)
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Intake I just have the downforce scoop that goes in place of the stock resonator. I'm still with a stock exhaust. I really think we underrate our cars. Just sayin.
I think we over rate our cars as far as acceleration goes. :wink:
You guys that are "winning" against superior cars are going up against some really sh*tty drivers :wink:
No it's not. each 1/10th in a quarter mile is approximately a car length. So in "theory" a Cayman R should be 2 car lengths ahead. BTW: A NA2 NSX is a low 13 sec car stock. Maybe 12.9 with bolt on mods and weight reductions.
I can tell you from Cayman S experiences on the track, that down a long straight (longer than a 1/4 mile) they keeping pulling further away.
The cars weigh the same, and the Caymans have MORE power.
Maybe some 400hp really heavy cars. And really its torque not hp that accelerates the car - something our NSXs are extremely lacking.
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thats because of your boat anchor rear wing and that splitter both of which are trying to push your car into terra firma:tongue:
I've raced a base C6, (2) C5 Z06s, and a newer Saleen Mustang all are 400+hp.
Note, none were from a stop, all were 65mph - ***
It perplexes me when people say our cars aren't fast. I've yet to lose a race...
Mine is one of the first NA2 cars, so who knows. Maybe I have the genetic freak?
I dun :biggrin:
I agree, 2 tenths is a couple of car lengths or more.
Torque at the wheels accelerates the car and that's based on a combination of torque at the flywheel, the gear being used and the final drive ratio. The NSX torque numbers are low but high revs and short gearing does tend to compensate for it somewhat.
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Ian
Torque at the wheels accelerates the car and that's based on a combination of torque at the flywheel, the gear being used and the final drive ratio. The NSX torque numbers are low but high revs and short gearing does tend to compensate for it somewhat.
Cheers,
Ian
I've never raced a Corevette (there are very rare over here), but have done 'spirited runs' against a number of cars which are on paper much faster than the NSX.
And yet, I've comfortably 'won' most of those short runs. And yes, all were not from a standstill but from driving on the road.
That said however, it seems that in most cases the 'other guy' simply forgets to downshift or didn't shift down as much as he could, thinking he could get away with staying in a higher gear.
For me, I just KNOW that I have to USE the gears and rpm's that are available for me to get the NSX accelerating fast. So I have no problems shifting back to 3rd at 75 mph if need arises.
Many other drivers simply don't even know how far their gears can reach because nowadays everyone seems to be lazy and just does the economical shift at 2500-3000 rpm.
So, yes, I think I win races not because of the NSX but because of the lazyness of the other driver. Which, of course, is just fine by me.. :smile:
And yet, I've comfortably 'won' most of those short runs. And yes, all were not from a standstill but from driving on the road.
That said however, it seems that in most cases the 'other guy' simply forgets to downshift or didn't shift down as much as he could, thinking he could get away with staying in a higher gear.
For me, I just KNOW that I have to USE the gears and rpm's that are available for me to get the NSX accelerating fast. So I have no problems shifting back to 3rd at 75 mph if need arises.
Many other drivers simply don't even know how far their gears can reach because nowadays everyone seems to be lazy and just does the economical shift at 2500-3000 rpm.
So, yes, I think I win races not because of the NSX but because of the lazyness of the other driver. Which, of course, is just fine by me.. :smile:
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Ok, to start. In my experiences. I've edged away from an e39 m5-I know it was running right cuz it was mine. And those have gobs of torque compared. Kept up within a car length of a 996 gt3. Beat a cayman r. Beat a cayenne turbo. Lol. Beat an e46 m3 multiple times.Beat a v8 vantage. Y'all should test your cars more often lol you might be surprised.
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