Ahh, makes me miss my old black one even more. One day, NSX 2.0, one day.
Me too....even with the "Star Trek" tailpipes (1994)
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Ahh, makes me miss my old black one even more. One day, NSX 2.0, one day.
Ted has been toeing that line in every speech I have seen and personally I think it is silly and foolish. In an automotive world of statistics you can't just stick your head in the sand and pretend these numbers don't exist. If your car is fat and heavy, don't avoid the question - come right out and face it. If your car has a shitty coefficient of drag, don't try to sugar coat it and pretend.
We aren't fooled.
I'm curious..... For people who really like this car & think it's really the new "NSX". I think there alot of issues, it seems to me that Acura is using the NSX name & nostalgia to sell this car. In my opinion has nothing to do with our beloved classic.
Now, I know it's using the latest technology just like the classic.
Here are a few problems:
-No pininfarina styling. This is a big issue for me, styling done by somebody who recently got out of school?
-not made in JAPAN. C'mon it's made in the USA
-Not worked on by Honda top engineers from Japan
-No development from race cars drivers: Ayrton Senna, Bobby Rahal, S. Nakajima (F1)
To me it honestly seems like corporate use of rehashing & using nostalgia & not making a true NSX. I honestly don't believe it should have been called that, it should have used another name. Obviously, in my opinion wrongly using the name is to draw attention & help sales. It's not in my opinion a true honda product coming out of japan coming from it's birthplace at Tochigi.
whats with the smurph leggings...LA faux biker leather jacket and work boot ensemble....
It's kind of sad how dated that Silverstone 2005 looked next the the black 2.0
I thought the same thing.. They should'a used one of these ; ) ..by the way, Paul, those were your wheels'till I bought em.
Ha ha. Taken by itself (such as looking at your avatar, Paul), the 02-05 looks undeniably great with no excuses needed.
Seen in the video next to a Gen-2, yeah you see some datedness but I think that's like looking at a 23 year old 5'10" amazon hottie new kid on the block next to your loving 5'4" wife of the past 10-15 years who's still a hottie in her own right.
Edit: And which one would you choose to go home to at night, knowing it's a one-time decision that you can't go back on, and that the 23 year old is going to age too eventually. (Something tells me I know how any 80+ year old former bankers or CEO's here might answer that...)
I'm curious..... For people who really like this car & think it's really the new "NSX". I think there a lot of issues, it seems to me that Acura is using the NSX name & nostalgia to sell this car. In my opinion has nothing to do with our beloved classic. Now, I know it's using the latest technology just like the classic.
Here are a few problems:
-No Pininfarina styling. This is a big issue for me, styling done by somebody who recently got out of school?
-not made in JAPAN. C'mon it's made in the USA
-Not worked on by Honda top engineers from Japan
-No development from race cars drivers: Ayrton Senna, Bobby Rahal, S. Nakajima (F1)
To me it honestly seems like corporate use of rehashing & using nostalgia & not making a true NSX. I honestly don't believe it should have been called that, it should have used another name. Obviously, in my opinion wrongly using the name is to draw attention & help sales. It's not in my opinion a true Honda product coming out of japan coming from it's birthplace at Tochigi.
Hey Hothonda...love the old nsx pics...you where one of the stalwart "old guard"
As a comparison, look at Porsche's main man here:
He is just honestly talking about the car & seems to love it. Does not forced corporate marketing speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRxbgACxlec
Too bad the NSX design team didn't have someone like Andreas on board to call the shots. Like it or not, the target market for the 911R is undeniably razor focused. I don't think Honda would have the guts to produce a car like this anymore.
JD, I'm quite sure Accords are not exported to Japan anymore. I don't think Civics are even sold there at this point, as they are considered too large for that market.
Agree.
Kind of makes you wonder what NSX 2.0 could have been if it had been more focused in purpose and not a "one size fits all" approach.
Maybe there will be an NSX-R in the future. Let's hope it doesn't end up just being a diluted and overpriced version of the regular car.
the question really is if Honda continued to produce the old nsx and kept updating it over the years...would we have arrived at this now?
Well the other side of the argument is that a thinly decorated interior is cheap feeling and flimsy. I'd be surprised if the interior pieces were that heavy as imagined. I've seen much more luxurious interiors that could potentially add excessive weight. The bulk of the excess weight are from the batteries and e-motors. I think the new NSX interior is elegant, sophisticated and not over-done. Having extra compartments for storage and cup holders are what makes a car more luxurious and a haven for dirt and spills. I'm not opposed to manual seats for 10-15+ lbs of weight saving per seat tho.
I also prefer the base wheels, largely because I am not a fan of asymmetrical or directional wheels.
I'm curious..... For people who really like this car & think it's really the new "NSX". I think there alot of issues, it seems to me that Acura is using the NSX name & nostalgia to sell this car. In my opinion has nothing to do with our beloved classic.
Now, I know it's using the latest technology just like the classic.
Here are a few problems:
-No pininfarina styling. This is a big issue for me, styling done by somebody who recently got out of school?
-not made in JAPAN. C'mon it's made in the USA
-Not worked on by Honda top engineers from Japan
-No development from race cars drivers: Ayrton Senna, Bobby Rahal, S. Nakajima (F1)
To me it honestly seems like corporate use of rehashing & using nostalgia & not making a true NSX. I honestly don't believe it should have been called that, it should have used another name. Obviously, in my opinion wrongly using the name is to draw attention & help sales. It's not in my opinion a true honda product coming out of japan coming from it's birthplace at Tochigi.
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I completely agree. Everytime he's talking it sounds like some cheap ad, marketing campaign, political corporate nonsense.
As a comparison, look at Porsche's main man here:
He is just honestly talking about the car & seems to love it. Does not forced corporate marketing speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRxbgACxlec
Getting "older" too ha!
2005 GPW - white/black interior (Zanardi mats). 1 of 2 made for the final year in this combo. Initially wasn't sure,
but turned out to be my favorite.
The base wheels are nice, but to me they are just too much of a look alike to all the other "Y" spokes out there already.
I find the interwoven's are at least more unique and different, though in "3 D " machined version they are a little too much over the top, and not suiting the car. (IMHO)
So I'm doing a compromise and going with polished interwoven. And speaking of compromising, Acura did just that with the interwoven's as it appears (so far) they are all the same (other than front and rear sizing) vs a properly executed asymmetrical. (even the i8 has asymmetric wheels) As such, don't look quite right on passenger side with their forward lean when car is at rest... suggesting it is going in reverse. On driver side they lean to rear suggesting forward motion even though still. Just MHO.
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ACURA... I hope your reading and listening
On tires we still don't know what we are getting once in production. I heard that all the Conti bad press has led to only Michelin PScup sneakers. And there was no sneaker choosing on the building site. Good I say... sorta' Unless they can find something between a more track tire design (with good dry and wet handling) and the non performer Conti.
You’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. There is no way that Acura could have satisfied all constituencies. Had the NSX 2.0 been overly similar to the 1.0 and/or failed to incorporate state of the art technology, people would have complained that the NSX did not evolve enough during the 12 year lapse between models. The posts would read: “Acura is trying to ride the coattails of the original, rather than updating the design and creating something new” or “Acura failed to take advantage of the new technologies now available and used by other super cars.” Instead, people complain that the new design diverges too much from the original, and incorporates too much new technology. In short, complainers will complain. There is no perfect car for everyone.
For those who think the new NSX 2.0 diverges too much from the original, take a look at the evolution of the Corvette:
I am hard pressed to find any linkage whatsoever between the current design and the original design. They are completely different cars.
In order to make a new model attractive to buyers who own the prior model, car manufacturers must create something meaningfully different. Otherwise, current owners will not buy the new model because it is not sufficiently different from their existing car.
Acura could not release multiple independent versions of the NSX 2.0 all at once, each one designed to appeal to a different segment of the high performance sports car market – that’s simply not realistic under the circumstances. Acura is understandingly, appropriately and necessarily proceeding cautiously. Perhaps there will be different versions of the NSX down the line. However, for the time being, with the risky re-introduction of a car that had been largely absent from the automobile landscape for 12 years (except to a small niche), Acura has to start with a single base NSX and see how things go. Thus, Acura necessarily endeavored to strike a balance among the countless factors that comprise a high performance sports car. By definition, a balance is not ideal for everyone. I personally applaud the balance that Acura struck with the NSX 2.0.
The notion that the NSX was designed exclusively by Americans, without any input from Japan, is nonsensical. Acura undoubtedly integrated the input and contributions of its best and brightest from both sides of the Pacific.
For the past 60 years, owners of prior model cars – who are often particularly attached to their existing car – have frequently criticized and rejected new models for many different reasons. While the proffered grounds for rejecting the new model may vary, the tension and resulting debate is all too common. This divide is often exacerbated when the new model is economically not an option for the owner of the existing model.
Lastly, I am amused by those attempting to read Leno’s mind, and attribute disfavor to Leno based on what he didn’t say. You guys should put your talents to better use . . . the Psychic Friends Network is currently hiring.
^ One can say the same for the Porsche evolution over the years with their fanatically followings also! :butterfly: