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sweet :)
And leaving it in 4th could pull out of much better, rather than being too slow int he corner and gossing it coming out and losing the ass end :(


Ding, ding, ding.... we have a winner.

Look at the above comparison of Curt vs me. I had stickier tires and better suspension vs Curt's more hp. Yes, power helps but laptime is avg speed around the whole course.

The Carrera GT has SO MUCH tq that you can leave it 4th and run the whole track just learning how fast it can go around the corners. Once you master that - which I would bet would be a sub 1:20 lap easy, then you start adding back the power and that car is probaly capable of a ???. Danny Popp set a new track record the weekend before of 1:08.
 
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Ding, ding, ding.... we have a winner.

Look at the above comparison of Curt vs me. I had stickier tires and better suspension vs Curt's more hp. Yes, power helps but laptime is avg speed around the whole course.

The Carrera GT has SO MUCH tq that you can leave it 4th and run the whole track just learning how fast it can go around the corners. Once you master that - which I would bet would be a sub 1:20 lap easy, then you start adding back the power and that car is probaly capable of a ???. Danny Popp set a new track record the weekend before of 1:08.

I just need throttlw control out the ass to get some of that power down too :)

and what did he set the 1:08 in?!?!?
Didnt Ron Fellows run like 1:11 or so in the C6R??
 
I just need throttlw control out the ass to get some of that power down too :)

and what did he set the 1:08 in?!?!?
Didnt Ron Fellows run like 1:11 or so in the C6R??

It was the BF Goodrich C5R

Danny drives this...

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Danny is the KING of Corvettes.

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that last video was amazing!!!
:eek:

was he the guy we were talking to at the end of the day?
did he run at all? or just help organize it?
 
that last video was amazing!!!
:eek:

was he the guy we were talking to at the end of the day?
did he run at all? or just help organize it?

Yea, he was the guy we were talking to at the end of the day. He is Bill's Chief Instructor so he seldom runs. Occasionally he brings his car out if he has a new setup or splitter or something to test. It's funny because he comes out of nowhere and next you know he is ridding your ass NASCAR style - and he NEVER waits for a point by.... you usually just see a blue blur go by you on the inside or outside and say "what the F**k was that? Danny is honestly one of the best drivers I have ever seen.
 
Looks like an absolute BLAST!!

We might have to go watch you guys run sometime next year...

I'm afraid, I'd get run over like a little old lady out their with you guys.

I had a chance to run the track at the Bluegrass Motor Sports with our

S2000 club on 10-24-2009. I had a great time in the novice class and got

to push the "new to me" NSX around to where it was sliding and just

breaking lose...it was a real learning opportunity for me in the "new"car and

a lot of fun power sliding through the corners at times.

Really enjoying the videos!!!

Seeya,

Jeff
 
Looks like an absolute BLAST!!

We might have to go watch you guys run sometime next year...

I'm afraid, I'd get run over like a little old lady out their with you guys.

I had a chance to run the track at the Bluegrass Motor Sports with our

S2000 club on 10-24-2009. I had a great time in the novice class and got

to push the "new to me" NSX around to where it was sliding and just

breaking lose...it was a real learning opportunity for me in the "new"car and

a lot of fun power sliding through the corners at times.

Really enjoying the videos!!!

Seeya,

Jeff


Bluegrass is open :confused:
was it just a tour/parade lap type of stuff?
 
No, it's not open yet,

The S2000 group booked a date of May xx 2009... the date it got pushed

back to about three different times over the summer and fall to eventually

get canceled.

This was just a touring date running around the track, "base coat" asphalt,

no spotters, no safety equipment, etc... It was for "goodwill" purposes we

were there for about 5 hours. It was a lot of fun for me to push around

the "new to me" NSX with out worrying about on coming traffic, mailboxes

and law enforcement officials.

Brad said the track should be open in the spring with the finish coat...

and safety barriers and support roads, etc...

Seeya,

Jeff
 
Brad said the track should be open in the spring with the finish coat...

and safety barriers and support roads, etc...

Seeya,

Jeff

Brad said the same thing last year, and in April and March and May, etc... Brad is a BIG FAT LIAR. He's out of money and the truth is that it might not open next year at all. I guess it all depends on how long it takes for the legal process to take when they finally take the property away from Brad. Heard he totaled his M3 on the track one day. Sucks to be him. If I am bitter, it's only because he did a really, really poor job of handling this situation - cover story after cover story all year long - only to find out he knew in April that it wasn't going to open.
 
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sweet :)
I was kinda all over there with my lines eh
and I think I was braking too much and loosing alot of speed into the turns I could have just scrubbed off. And leaving it in 4th could pull out of much better, rather than being too slow int he corner and gossing it coming out and losing the ass end :(

1st congrats on taking your CGT to the track. Personally - I would do the same thing, brake more and leave it in 3rd or higher gear around the track. There are way too many CGT's lost due to simple car control mishaps. I would be driving mine like a Grand ma too!
 
I would be driving mine like a Grand ma too!

Dan didn't drive it like a Grandma.... to the contrary, he was OVERDRIVING the car which ends up having the car drive Dan. :tongue:

The problem he had is that the car had so much torque that the back end would break loose on turn exit any time he tried to get on the gas. My solution, which he finally listened to and tried to success, was leaving it in 4th and work on a good line and keeping momentum up in the turns and not worrying about rocketing out of the exit and on to the next turn.

There is a reason why those little pesky Spec Miatas can cruise around the track - momentum. I usually make my students in low hp cars do the track in 4th for the same, but different reason, learn to keep the momentum up. In a low hp car if you aren't smooth and keep the momentum going the car will bog down and it's obvious. As well, if you overdrive the turn entry it will scrub speed and bog down. Usually after about 10 laps doing this, a light goes off in their head about how to smoothly cary speed through out the corners.

Another trick is too run the whole track with minimal braking like a cool down lap and go faster each lap not worrying about flooring it between turns - concentrate solely on keeping what speed you have through the turn. The biggest obstacle for novices is over braking and then flooring it coming out of the turns. They think that the need to threshold brake, but the problem is they brake too much. In the video following Dan in the CGT you can see where I keep almost rear ending him because he is braking so hard. :rolleyes:

Dan, if you bring it out next year I'd like you to try keeping it in 4th and follow me. Just keep a constant 70 mph around the whole track - every turn (except 7). Don't worry about the straights between turns, just a constant 70 mph like driving on the highway and no braking between turns. Just keep the speed up and steer through the turns. It's actually fun doing this sort of thing and then you increase it a little bit each lap and you will definitely learn a thing or two.
 
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and i have to add that once you master the skill above, you will improve your MPG and E/T to work everyday!!! :biggrin:

so I don't get it, why did the CGT decided to mow the lawn at the end? he forgot the turn??
 
Awesome thread, wish it was in the track section because I don't check regionals. Thanks for the link off the track section Captain.
 
the car has such amazing brakes and is so lightweight and gets up to such a high speed between turns its hard to find the right balance of when to brake so you dont go in too fast and lose it or too slow and lose it coming out from gunning it :(
I know I was braking a good 3-4 car lengths early going in to one vs the Lambo, then again I was going 15 mph faster :eek:
but with better brakes and lighter weight I still should be able to hold out later and go into 1 faster....praying the back end stays in place :D


you didnt get my near spin and off on the warm up lap in 7 by chance did you?? lol
 
Dan,

This is way off topic but personally I wouldn't track your CGT. The car is a beast and truely meant for professionals or guys driving at 6-7/10's. I would hate for you to cruch it. There have been 3 CGT'S lost in the pacific NW in the last 3 months. I would HIGHLY recommend a regular 911 or a GT3 for track duties.

Just my 2 cents. YMMV:tongue:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259154&page=2

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259997

The 1st link has pics but you can only see them if you are a member.
 
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Now.... back to cars!!!!

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Now.... back to MORE cars!!!!

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And now back to cars! I just returned from VIR, and what a blast.....you guys have to find a way to try it out! I used the sports plus setting (for the first time Sat.) and it shifts at 7200rpm (upshifts and downshifts automatically with no helping from the paddle shifters)...hitting 145mph on the back straight and 130mph on the front, and the car now has just 1450 miles on it.....what fun! :smile: As much as I love my NSX, this new 3.8L engine and PDK is making me enjoy my P car more than I ever thought possible.....

The Northern New Jersey Porsche region has 12>13 events each year, and my next (500 mile) adventure (for 2010) is Watkins Glen. That said, you can have almost as much fun at Mid Ohio and Putnam Park, as they are also great tracks!

You have to track your cars guys....and it's alot more fun than reading the Dan & Kyle exchange any day!:wink:
 
Now.... back to MORE cars!!!!

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Oh my God, that looks like fun! If only the tracks were that open to run on....
 
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