Well guess what, Eddie Jones, a Suns TV commentator said it pales in comparison to what Kwame did to Tim Thomas and Diaw.RyRy210 said:
So there. :biggrin:
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So there. :biggrin:
Well, I'm sure if the Lakers were playing like the Suns, we'd have some Sun hating going on, too. It's not fun to be embarassed. 
Regarding the Kobe trial, I hope you're just kidding. Kwame we still have yet to know anything about that. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? A friend of mine is a lawyer for several celebs and sports stars and it's just ludricrous what some people will do for money. It's good to be average!
Regarding the Kobe trial, I hope you're just kidding. Kwame we still have yet to know anything about that. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? A friend of mine is a lawyer for several celebs and sports stars and it's just ludricrous what some people will do for money. It's good to be average!
GO CLIPPERS!!!!!! L.A's Real Basketball Team
NsXMas said:
Well, I cited TNT because they are not affiliated with either. Lakers radio (AM570) broadcasted excerpts of Game 4 with Sun Commentators and compared it to the Laker Commentators. Complete opposites, which was not surprising. The home crowd will always root for the home team.
Well on espn.com bulletin boards, most fans were cheering that because they think Kobe and the Lakers are finally getting just desserts.RyRy210 said:
Actually it is entertainment so it is like WWE. I'm expecting Raja Bell and Kobe to get into the ring soon.
Sweet!! Got tickets to tonight's game. Hope tears of sadness will be flowing in Phoenix!! Bring it on Clips!!
Looking forward to the Staples Center showdown between the 2 home teams.
I'm a Laker fan myself, but who are we kidding...it's gonna be a Spurs/Pistons finals.:redface:
I'm a Laker fan myself, but who are we kidding...it's gonna be a Spurs/Pistons finals.:redface:
Joel said:
It'll be L.A. and Dallas in the W. Conf. Finals, Dallas winning in six, then beating the Pistons in the finals in 7
A fan can always dream :wink:
Sorry, just had to share this. Remember Raja's complaint about an elbow to the face? Well, here's the video. What a flop! The last replay shows his elbow nowhere near his face.
GO LAKERS!!!!!:biggrin:
NsXMas said:
The Lakers are getting their just desserts? Some sort of celebration cake I'm sure...
Okay. Now that I've listened to your completely logical reasoning, I'm convinced. This girl is a saint!
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head-games...
Played out
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Exclusive
May 4, 2006
Phil Jackson has nine championship rings. Kobe Bryant has three. Raja Bell has none, although he does have a one-game suspension to serve.
In a beautifully calculated bit of series-long gamesmanship, the Los Angeles Lakers' championship-experienced coach and star have taken Bell, the Phoenix Suns' best defender (not an oxymoron), out of Thursday's critical Game 6 in L.A. It was all so predictable you can hardly believe it worked.
Bell had to be on the Lakers' radar before this series even began. He is a player of great defensive talent (enough to actually slow Bryant) but also of great emotion (enough to react to five games of poking and prodding).
So the Lakers poked. And then prodded. Bryant got some elbows up; Jackson got Bell's ire up with biting comments from the bench.
In Tuesday's Game 5, Bell snapped, idiotically throwing Bryant to the floor in the fourth quarter of an easy Suns victory. He was ejected and then predictably suspended for one game, leaving Phoenix with no obvious answer for the most dangerous scorer in the NBA.
It was a matter of taking the Lakers' bait, hook, line and (team) sinker.
"I have no respect for him," Bell told reporters Wednesday of Bryant, who has played chippy all series. "I think he's a pompous, arrogant individual."
Like congeniality matters.
Then there was Bell, immediately after mauling Bryant, turning toward Jackson and, according to the Associated Press, screaming "That's your foul." Bell explained that he was still upset that, after being fouled earlier, Jackson had told him he "(expletive) deserved it."
"I thought that was kind of bush league from such a good coach," Bell said. "That was enough for me."
If you know anything about Phil Jackson, you know he doesn't waste words, time or energy on anything that doesn't help achieve the end game. Phil Jackson talks to Raja Bell for one reason – to get in his head so he'll do something that benefits the Lakers. In this case, something stupid like getting suspended.
This was Mind Games 101, even if no one on the Lakers is ever going to admit it. But this is why certain coaches and certain players figure out how to advance in the playoffs, even when they don't have the best talent.
This was two playoff veterans – ultra-competitive and proven winners – taking on an inexperienced opponent and getting him to melt down at the worst possible moment.
If you are into this kind of psych-out sports stuff, this was about as good as it gets.
"I got a bruised cheek here and I can barely open my jaw on this side, and that didn't come from nowhere," ranted Bell, citing hard fouls by Bryant that the refs never considered flagrant. "I felt like I'd had enough of that."
"When I get hit in the face multiple times, you've stepped across the line with me," he said. "It's not basketball anymore. It was basketball for four games, then when he hit me in the face, that was the last straw."
This might be the last straw for the Suns, who, while still capable of storming back and taking this series, sure have a tougher road now.
The best reaction on Tuesday night to Bell's idiocy was not Bryant's big grin but the expression of Steve Nash. His face was part disgust and part disbelief that five months of hard work and overcoming adversity might have just gone up in smoke.
Phoenix has plenty of reasons to complain about the refs in this series, but that doesn't mean you wonder "What would Ronny (Artest) do?"
The Suns did everything right this season to shake off the loss of Amare Stoudemire and wind up the second seed in the West. They absolutely maximized themselves.
But there is a difference between the regular season and the playoffs and Jackson and Bryant know that as well as anyone. A playoff series is, at times, a battle of attrition, emotion and maturity. It isn't just speed and skill. Brains often overwhelm brawn.
Without laughing, Bryant and Jackson even publicly implored the NBA not to suspend Bell.
"I let him play. … Maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a child," Bryant smiled.
Kobe smiles a lot these days. Smiles about the way his team is playing. Smiles about his new daughter. Smiles over his restored relationship with Jackson.
Smiles that his team, which many thought wouldn't even make the playoffs, is on the verge of Round 2, where an historic matchup against the down-the-hallway Los Angeles Clippers await.
He was smiling big on Tuesday after getting hammered, brushing off the foul and playing up to the Phoenix crowd. He had every reason to. Raja Bell fell for the oldest trick in the book and took himself out of the most crucial game of the series.
Just how you can imagine Kobe and Phil dreamed it up.
Played out
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports Exclusive
May 4, 2006
Phil Jackson has nine championship rings. Kobe Bryant has three. Raja Bell has none, although he does have a one-game suspension to serve.
In a beautifully calculated bit of series-long gamesmanship, the Los Angeles Lakers' championship-experienced coach and star have taken Bell, the Phoenix Suns' best defender (not an oxymoron), out of Thursday's critical Game 6 in L.A. It was all so predictable you can hardly believe it worked.
Bell had to be on the Lakers' radar before this series even began. He is a player of great defensive talent (enough to actually slow Bryant) but also of great emotion (enough to react to five games of poking and prodding).
So the Lakers poked. And then prodded. Bryant got some elbows up; Jackson got Bell's ire up with biting comments from the bench.
In Tuesday's Game 5, Bell snapped, idiotically throwing Bryant to the floor in the fourth quarter of an easy Suns victory. He was ejected and then predictably suspended for one game, leaving Phoenix with no obvious answer for the most dangerous scorer in the NBA.
It was a matter of taking the Lakers' bait, hook, line and (team) sinker.
"I have no respect for him," Bell told reporters Wednesday of Bryant, who has played chippy all series. "I think he's a pompous, arrogant individual."
Like congeniality matters.
Then there was Bell, immediately after mauling Bryant, turning toward Jackson and, according to the Associated Press, screaming "That's your foul." Bell explained that he was still upset that, after being fouled earlier, Jackson had told him he "(expletive) deserved it."
"I thought that was kind of bush league from such a good coach," Bell said. "That was enough for me."
If you know anything about Phil Jackson, you know he doesn't waste words, time or energy on anything that doesn't help achieve the end game. Phil Jackson talks to Raja Bell for one reason – to get in his head so he'll do something that benefits the Lakers. In this case, something stupid like getting suspended.
This was Mind Games 101, even if no one on the Lakers is ever going to admit it. But this is why certain coaches and certain players figure out how to advance in the playoffs, even when they don't have the best talent.
This was two playoff veterans – ultra-competitive and proven winners – taking on an inexperienced opponent and getting him to melt down at the worst possible moment.
If you are into this kind of psych-out sports stuff, this was about as good as it gets.
"I got a bruised cheek here and I can barely open my jaw on this side, and that didn't come from nowhere," ranted Bell, citing hard fouls by Bryant that the refs never considered flagrant. "I felt like I'd had enough of that."
"When I get hit in the face multiple times, you've stepped across the line with me," he said. "It's not basketball anymore. It was basketball for four games, then when he hit me in the face, that was the last straw."
This might be the last straw for the Suns, who, while still capable of storming back and taking this series, sure have a tougher road now.
The best reaction on Tuesday night to Bell's idiocy was not Bryant's big grin but the expression of Steve Nash. His face was part disgust and part disbelief that five months of hard work and overcoming adversity might have just gone up in smoke.
Phoenix has plenty of reasons to complain about the refs in this series, but that doesn't mean you wonder "What would Ronny (Artest) do?"
The Suns did everything right this season to shake off the loss of Amare Stoudemire and wind up the second seed in the West. They absolutely maximized themselves.
But there is a difference between the regular season and the playoffs and Jackson and Bryant know that as well as anyone. A playoff series is, at times, a battle of attrition, emotion and maturity. It isn't just speed and skill. Brains often overwhelm brawn.
Without laughing, Bryant and Jackson even publicly implored the NBA not to suspend Bell.
"I let him play. … Maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a child," Bryant smiled.
Kobe smiles a lot these days. Smiles about the way his team is playing. Smiles about his new daughter. Smiles over his restored relationship with Jackson.
Smiles that his team, which many thought wouldn't even make the playoffs, is on the verge of Round 2, where an historic matchup against the down-the-hallway Los Angeles Clippers await.
He was smiling big on Tuesday after getting hammered, brushing off the foul and playing up to the Phoenix crowd. He had every reason to. Raja Bell fell for the oldest trick in the book and took himself out of the most crucial game of the series.
Just how you can imagine Kobe and Phil dreamed it up.
Re: head-games...
Well my prediction of Kobe becoming a scoring machine isn't showing up so far, but the Lakers are on a pretty good run to end the 1st. Maybe with Barbosa coming back they (Suns) can put together a run of their own...
Well my prediction of Kobe becoming a scoring machine isn't showing up so far, but the Lakers are on a pretty good run to end the 1st. Maybe with Barbosa coming back they (Suns) can put together a run of their own...
Re: head-games...
Oooo ya~!!!!!
WWE in da house!!!
Oooo ya~!!!!!
WWE in da house!!!
That game was so rigged. And you know by who? Bush... Gas prices are cheaper in Arizona and by keeping the series between here and Arizona, big oil is going to gradually influence gas prices to levels seen in Santa Barbara, CA. Let us not forget that trip that Rumsfeld took out to Phoenix back in 2004, what the heck was that about? Basketball and oil... David Stern and George Bush, how many times have you spotted them in the same place at the same time?
ROFL!!Malibu Rapper said:
I'm working late tonight, manning the suicide hot lines for the Lakers fans. Boys the phones are ringing off the hook!!
Guess the refs felt they needed another day of work...season ending soon. :wink: Lakers close it out on Saturday!!!!
and did you hear the new NSX is going to debut once the Lakers win the NBA championship?Racerxjling said:
You know the truth. How are the airlines going to make money with an LA vs. LA series?
If the Lakers win:
1. Exxon misses profit targets next quarter, only profits 15 billion USD for the quarter. $50 billion by year end only meeting 1/2 of consensus expectations. Stock market tumbles on news. Cramer says "sell sell sell" on big oil.
2. All of the airlines go out of business except for Southwest Airlines which somehow manages to eek out monster profits.
3. Global cooling due to planes not stopping off in Phoenix and carrying the heat back to LA.
4. Pork futures triple due to consumption of those awesome bacon wrapped LA hotdogs you can buy outside of Staples Center after the game.
5. Staples buys Office Depot and OfficeMax. Photocopies skyrocket to $1 per B&W copy. Consumers go broke trying to photocopy money.
Why wouldn't you want Phoenix to win? I would be shocked if David Stern lets the Lakers win...
If the Lakers win:
1. Exxon misses profit targets next quarter, only profits 15 billion USD for the quarter. $50 billion by year end only meeting 1/2 of consensus expectations. Stock market tumbles on news. Cramer says "sell sell sell" on big oil.
2. All of the airlines go out of business except for Southwest Airlines which somehow manages to eek out monster profits.
3. Global cooling due to planes not stopping off in Phoenix and carrying the heat back to LA.
4. Pork futures triple due to consumption of those awesome bacon wrapped LA hotdogs you can buy outside of Staples Center after the game.
5. Staples buys Office Depot and OfficeMax. Photocopies skyrocket to $1 per B&W copy. Consumers go broke trying to photocopy money.
Why wouldn't you want Phoenix to win? I would be shocked if David Stern lets the Lakers win...
LOL true dat!!Malibu Rapper said:
and did you hear the new NSX is going to debut once the Lakers win the NBA championship?
Yes, and I heard the new NSX won't have much "bling" as ALL the Laker championship rings!!!:smile:
Yes, and I heard the new NSX won't have much "bling" as ALL the Laker championship rings!!!:smile:
True, not as bright as the ones Phoenix are going to win with Amare though.Racerxjling said:
NsXMas said:True, not as bright as the ones Phoenix are going to win with Amare though.
Fat chance, Detroit or San Antonio will kill them :biggrin:
ABhagat said:
"Dream" is the operative word here.
Mavs won't get past the Spurs, much less the Pistons. Dirk is about to go into his annual hibernation routine, and the bench in SA will dominate Dallas.
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