Truly worthy successor to your NSX in your garage.
Yep.... The 12C is basically an extension to the nsx in my opinion... Unfortunately people are realizing this as the prices on them are on the rise...
Truly worthy successor to your NSX in your garage.
Yep.... The 12C is basically an extension to the nsx in my opinion... Unfortunately people are realizing this as the prices on them are on the rise...
I cannot comment on reliability as I am not a 12C owner. But after riding in a friends 2013, the raw driving experience is quite the norm in this car. It is ridiculously fast. I attribute the light weight, direct mechanics of the car, and overall driving experience I must say this car is very underrated. I have had my eye on a few. Maybe another year or two I may buy one.I've heard bad things about McLaren reliability. One of hallmarks of the NSX is how bullet proof it is. Have I heard wrong?
Here's a quote from Road & Track:
"I bought one of the first MP4-12Cs in the country back in 2012. Over 1000 miles with the car, I started to notice problems. Everyone with an early car had issues. The transmission calibration was wonky, making the car creep and lurch in traffic. The doors, which use sensors instead of handles, didn't always open. Early cars shipped with a Bluetooth- and nav-equipped stereo installed, but not operational. I felt like a beta tester. With McLaren staying quiet about fixes, I cashed out and sold the car at list."
My 1994 NSX has been a truly reliable track machine for the past 6 years. Starting from 2010, I have this car basically stock and track a few times with street tire. NSX in stock form amazed me and my track buddy in term of fun factor compare to my 06 fully track prep sti. I did spun out the first time in my life and I was shocked how difficult to control mid engine with rubber bushing at limit. Now ever since I mod the car complete for the track, I was spoil how good the balance and steering feel of the car. Car weight only 2500 lbs with ac, full interior and stereo. in 2014 I bought a 2009 gtr and the car come with 275 and 315 r888 already. I was shocked again how modern technology transform and aid driver in controlling the speed at limit. However after about a year the excitement is gone. Having owning a Gtr taught me one thing, I would not want to own any car that has modern technology like twin clutch or Electrical LSD or Awd. Also, don't think there are anything on the market nowsday that can give me that much driving feel and involvement of a nsx. I have come to a decision that I would never sell my car. At that time I was trying to look for a nsx upgrade in 2015. After much researching for a car that need to meet the sound requirement, fun factor, driving position,look compartment and exclusiveness coming from a nsx owner, I have come to decision that a 2008 Gallardo Superleggera check out all my requirement of an upgrade nsx version. Once I got the car, I deleted the awd in few hours and put a test pipe with loc f1 exhaust myself. The car was so easy to work with similar to the nsx. Don't have to deal with the center nut bolt is a big plus if you track you car often enough. Track pad is on. Factory Superleggera comes with coilover stock so I install lowered spring then lowered 3 inches with corner balance and track alignment. Car weight just 3150 lbs after all this done, very close to the original nsx weight and I can finally said that I can finally get an upgrade nsx version unlike the new nsx which share nothing except the name. The only thing that is missing is a stick but once you are in the superleggera you will notice the gearing is very short compare to a nsx and shifting of the superleggera really bend your head literally every single gear. Driving in low speed around town in a superleggera also gives me a sense of sophistication that nsx will not give. The most important aspect of a super car is sound, and this v10 version unlike the newer one on Lp560 give a true F1 experience to anyone in the cockpit. Nsx with the straight pipe and titanium exhaust felt just lousy in comparison. It also come with a front lift kit with the factory meaning that I could drive to anywhere without stripping the bottom. All in all, I felt like the 08 superleggera is a complete package although performance wise it can't compare with 12C or 991gt3rs but for the price I paid totally worth the experience.
New member here and prospective owner. The NSX is my first love, launching me into a young man's automotive pubescence, at the time I obviously could not afford one. Then early in my career I had the means but got hooked on Lotus cars. I've happy owned two Lotus Exiges and love them dearly. My Exige is is handling dream and a powerful little beast. But every now and again I come back to the NSX and find myself fawning all over it. This is to say, I'm contemplating selling my Lotus for an NSX, preferably a 1993 or 1994.
I know this is counter to the point of this thread, but I just had to chime in...
all good, an interesting addition to the thread.
you never owned an Esprit?
Nah, never owned an Esprit. Not that I do not like them. I think they are great looking cars and I hear with some work, they handle very well. The thing about the Esprits are their age. They are not like our NSX's. They were nowhere in the same league in build quality so any of the ones I was interested in were going to be a headache in terms of getting them back into shape. Petrolicious did a great video on one of my favorite Esprits:
http://petrolicious.com/this-lotus-esprit-is-a-light-rider-reborn
Maybe if I had really really deep pockets and lived in a house with a two car garage, I'd undertake Esprit ownership. But that just isn't in the cards, at least at the moment.
Will have another NSX in the garage soon, but for now I'm enjoying our Evo:
http://sw2heritagecars.com/portfolio/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-ix-3233/
This has been a very interesting read.
I'm hoping I'll be able to take the gentler approach to experimentation and keep my NSX around while I play with some other toys. I have the garage space and free-time to maintain a couple of non-DD cars, so my plan is to see how much comes out of some investments that are coming due and then go shopping. I've been a sucker for the early year Gallardos for a while and will probably be looking at those first (ideally an '06+ with a gated 'box). I've been sold on those since seeing Valentino (yeah, *that* Valentino) absolutely flog a pair of them all weekend at PIR only stopping for gas, tires, and brakes for like 4 years running with absolutely zero mechanical issues. That and they make a hell of a noise.
The 12C is probably a stretch for this round, but it's on the short-list especially if the used prices keep depressing further. My concern here, is that I'm a DIY guy. It's how I can justify/sensibly afford looking at stuff like this. The McLaren is getting deep into the "black box" engine bay territory. I'd also be curious how they'd feel about some shade-tree calling them with questions about how to do some $10,000-at-a-dealership service on a second hand car, lol. The Gallardo is at least reasonably analog, especially without the e-gear crap and I've seen a clutch job done and have little question I could do the same.
My NSX is no museum-piece, so I don't stand to really cash in on the current market. I figure I'll rotate some stuff through the other garage bay until something lands there that I consistently choose over the NSX for a road trip or track day....then we'll see I suppose.
great video, well done. personally i'd only considered a late model S4 previous to the inception of the V8 Twin Turbo, but that's the only option for me now. either an SE or a Sport 350 if one could be found. which is probably impossible?
the S4's were great cars, and the V8's are much better. the build quality and reliability is decent, but obviously not NSX worthy. nothing from the 1990's is.
they handled very well, especially the last years, and they were fast as shit for the time. much quicker than an NSX, and apparently they were just a pulley away from 400 reliable horsepower.
true classics, in every bit the same way as a Countach or Testarossa...
Very nice Evo! Great pictures.
We've had quite a few R8's over the past few years and now looking to get into another car.
I've had R8s on my short-list as well. If I'm going to get one, it will be an earlier V8 car though. I like the way they sound, and frankly I'd rather have the V10 in a Lamborghini if I'm going to.
It's hard to find a R8 V10 with a 6-speed and even harder to find a Gallardo with one.
The year I'd opt for would be the 89 Esprit SE. I'm much more a fan of the 4 pot with water charge cooling for the turbo. But I'm sure the V8's were boatloads of fun!
My Exige can be described much in the same way against the NSX. Squeaks, rattles, build quality, etc. But the handling, and driving dynamics are EXTREMELY hard to beat at ANY price point.
The R8 V8 is also on my short list! But at the same time I have always wanted a Lotus Evora. The new Evora 400 looks and sounds like a blast but the old S version would be amazing too.
the R8 V8 with a manual 6-speed is a lot of car for the money. and i do believe the prices are going up on them these days...