still love my nsx, but............

docjohn · 3 January 2011

pbassjo said:
dquarasr2 I couldn't agree more. Nice post.

me too...

tbromley · 3 January 2011

docjohn said:
me too...

Me three - one of the best short writes on this subject I have ever read!

dquarasr2 · 3 January 2011

tbromley said:
Me three - one of the best short writes on this subject I have ever read!

Aw, shucks (looks sheepishly down at shoes, hands in pockets . . . .)

Thanks for the kind words in the last few posts.

kookoo4nsx · 4 January 2011

Curious about your SC NSX. Have you taken it to the drag track? I wonder why you say a GT3 would "smoke" your NSX. My Turbo NSX puts out 400 rwhp and ran mid 12's at 118 mph. According to a car magazine the GT3 does 11.9sec 1/4 mile at 119.4 mph. I would not consider that smoking my Turbo NSX.

Here is link to Porsche article.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...orsche-911-gt3-vs-2010-porsche-911-turbo.html

VegasSpeed said:
Most Porsches actually are pretty reliable. Do some research and you will see they last quite well. I don't know about the stiff clutch issue since most NSX cars have aftermarket clutches so that all depends on what you compare it to.

A Porsche C2 is pretty standard but a Turbo is hard to find and a GT3 is even more special. I drove a stock 997 GT3 (not RS) and it was naturally aspirated and had a nice clutch and it was everything I would wish for in a new car. 0-60 in 4.4 seconds plus the gearing is great. I have a Supercharged NSX with nearly 400whp and that would still get smoked by a new GT3. People talk about doing a Turbo like is a simple procedure but it is anything but that. If you want something above 400whp than you need to open the engine block up and replace the internals. That can run between $5k-8k just in parts. Sleeving the block, rods, pistons, and Billet Crank are big bucks. Half of that you probably don't need depending on your power wishes. However, then you will likely need to upgrade your suspension and brakes to match the power to do it right. The car has to be balanced to work right. By that time you might as well just buy a GTR or used GT3 Porsche that is ready to go. That is what I learned after spending so much money on the NSX already. The NSX is a good car in stock form but to match today's supercars you will need to spend quite a bit to make the car what it needs to be with suspension, brakes and engine. I have priced it out and know that first hand.

XYZ_NSX · 4 January 2011

NSX nor Porsche are "drag" cars (unless you're 17 years old). At the end of 1320 ft., a GT3 pilot is still sipping his latte. On a road course or twisty mountain pass, a GT3 would smoke, chew up & spit out your/my/most NSX.

Skidpad - NSX 0.91 to 0.93g's
GT3 1.0 to 1.03g's

From your article on the 911:

Acceleration Comments: Difficult to achieve perfect launch with this much power and grip. Fortunately, the GT3 has a nearly indestructible clutch. It demands deliberate shifts and doesn't care about being beaten on during acceleration testing.

and...

Acceleration Comments: Holy crap! This is fast. And the amazing part? It could easily be faster. A surface with more grip would allow the PDK to hold 1st and 2nd gears longer and likely yield quicker times. Here, it just upshifts immediately when it senses wheelspin. PDK is, again, amazing. Launch control produced the best run.

kookoo4nsx said:
Curious about your SC NSX. Have you taken it to the drag track? I wonder why you say a GT3 would "smoke" your NSX. My Turbo NSX puts out 400 rwhp and ran mid 12's at 118 mph. According to a car magazine the GT3 does 11.9sec 1/4 mile at 119.4 mph. I would not consider that smoking my Turbo NSX.

Here is link to Porsche article.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...orsche-911-gt3-vs-2010-porsche-911-turbo.html

Iceman3k · 4 January 2011

XYZ_NSX said:
NSX nor Porsche are "drag" cars (unless you're 17 years old). At the end of 1320 ft., a GT3 pilot is still sipping his latte. On a road course or twisty mountain pass, a GT3 would smoke, chew up & spit out your/my/most NSX.

Skidpad - NSX 0.91 to 0.93g's
GT3 1.0 to 1.03g's

From your article on the 911:

Acceleration Comments: Difficult to achieve perfect launch with this much power and grip. Fortunately, the GT3 has a nearly indestructible clutch. It demands deliberate shifts and doesn't care about being beaten on during acceleration testing.

and...

Acceleration Comments: Holy crap! This is fast. And the amazing part? It could easily be faster. A surface with more grip would allow the PDK to hold 1st and 2nd gears longer and likely yield quicker times. Here, it just upshifts immediately when it senses wheelspin. PDK is, again, amazing. Launch control produced the best run.

Different cars do different things well. A 1/4 drag is not really what any true sports car is setup for. It can be fun to take the car to see what it can do in a straight line, and what you can do as far as launching it, but that is about it. I really would not put too much stock in 1/4 mile times.

The NSX was ahead of its time, is exotic, has a great seating position and steering feel and made in low numbers. It will always be known for that, and should be enjoyed because of that. I know that is why I want one.

I purchased my Z06 before the NSX because I wanted performance, and it IS the best bang for the buck. I was wiling to live with the fact that there were a lot of normal vettes running around, and its interior not being completely covered with leather (with can be corrected). It will destroy that GT3 in a straight line, and beats it around a track too. When I get my NSX to compliment the Z06 I will enjoy it for what it is and not try and compare it to other cars. That would be my best advice to anyone thinking of selling their NSX. Don't do it! No other car can give you the exotic status, seating position and steering feel as the price an NSX can.

XYZ_NSX · 4 January 2011

Iceman3k said:
It will destroy that GT3 in a straight line, and beats it around a track too.

Eh...I wouldn't use the word "destroy":

Nurburgring lap records:

<TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 90%" id=sortable_table_id_0 class="wikitable sortable"><TBODY><TR><TD>(67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:18</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</TD><TD>Timo Kluck</TD><TD>April 2010</TD><TD>[7] [8] Manufacturer claim.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:18.1</TD><TD>Donkervoort D8 RS</TD><TD>Michael Düchting</TD><TD>24 October 2004</TD><TD>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:22.1</TD><TD>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</TD><TD>Tom Coronel</TD><TD>18 August 2008</TD><TD>Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:24</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (11/2010)[10]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:24.22</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2011)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>October 2010</TD><TD>Nissan conducted test.[11] Semi-wet conditions.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.3</TD><TD>Maserati MC12</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.44</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:25.7</TD><TD>Ferrari Enzo</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:26.4</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</TD><TD>Jim Mero</TD><TD>27 June 2008</TD><TD>General Motors conducted test,[12] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:26.70</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>23 April 2009</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[13]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:27.82</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>September 2007</TD><TD>Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:28.71</TD><TD>Porsche Carrera GT</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2 July 2004</TD><TD>(07/04) [15]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:29.03</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>17 April 2008</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test,.[16][17][18] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:32.02</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:33</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [20]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 90%" id=sortable_table_id_0 class="wikitable sortable"><TBODY><TR><TD>(67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:18</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</TD><TD>Timo Kluck</TD><TD>April 2010</TD><TD>[7] [8] Manufacturer claim.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:18.1</TD><TD>Donkervoort D8 RS</TD><TD>Michael Düchting</TD><TD>24 October 2004</TD><TD>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:22.1</TD><TD>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</TD><TD>Tom Coronel</TD><TD>18 August 2008</TD><TD>Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:24</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (11/2010)[10]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:24.22</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2011)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>October 2010</TD><TD>Nissan conducted test.[11] Semi-wet conditions.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.3</TD><TD>Maserati MC12</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.44</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:25.7</TD><TD>Ferrari Enzo</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:26.4</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</TD><TD>Jim Mero</TD><TD>27 June 2008</TD><TD>General Motors conducted test,[12] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:26.70</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>23 April 2009</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[13]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:27.82</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>September 2007</TD><TD>Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:28.71</TD><TD>Porsche Carrera GT</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2 July 2004</TD><TD>(07/04) [15]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:29.03</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>17 April 2008</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test,.[16][17][18] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:32.02</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:33</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [20]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 90%" id=sortable_table_id_0 class="wikitable sortable"><TBODY><TR><TD>(67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:18</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</TD><TD>Timo Kluck</TD><TD>April 2010</TD><TD>[7] [8] Manufacturer claim.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:18.1</TD><TD>Donkervoort D8 RS</TD><TD>Michael Düchting</TD><TD>24 October 2004</TD><TD>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:22.1</TD><TD>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</TD><TD>Tom Coronel</TD><TD>18 August 2008</TD><TD>Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:24</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (11/2010)[10]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:24.22</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2011)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>October 2010</TD><TD>Nissan conducted test.[11] Semi-wet conditions.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.3</TD><TD>Maserati MC12</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:24.44</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:25.7</TD><TD>Ferrari Enzo</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>August 2008</TD><TD>Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:26.4</TD><TD>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</TD><TD>Jim Mero</TD><TD>27 June 2008</TD><TD>General Motors conducted test,[12] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:26.70</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>23 April 2009</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[13]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</TD><TD>7:27.82</TD><TD>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</TD><TD>Marc Basseng</TD><TD>September 2007</TD><TD>Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</TD><TD>7:28.71</TD><TD>Porsche Carrera GT</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2 July 2004</TD><TD>(07/04) [15]</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:29.03</TD><TD>Nissan GT-R (2009)</TD><TD>Toshio Suzuki</TD><TD>17 April 2008</TD><TD>Nissan Motors conducted test,.[16][17][18] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</TD></TR><TR><TD>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</TD><TD>7:32.02</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</TD><TD>Walter Röhrl</TD><TD>2007</TD><TD>Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>7:33</TD><TD>Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII</TD><TD>Horst von Saurma</TD><TD></TD><TD>Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [20]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburgring_lap_times

robfenn · 4 January 2011

Agree with dquarasr2, well said!

docjohn · 4 January 2011

dquarasr2 for president!!!!!:smile:

Iceman3k · 4 January 2011

XYZ_NSX said:
Eh...I wouldn't use the word "destroy":

Nurburgring lap records:

<table style="font-size: 90%;" id="sortable_table_id_0" class="wikitable sortable"><tbody><tr><td>(67,600 ft)</td><td>7:18</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</td><td>Timo Kluck</td><td>April 2010</td><td>[7] [8] Manufacturer claim.</td></tr><tr><td>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</td><td>7:18.1</td><td>Donkervoort D8 RS</td><td>Michael Düchting</td><td>24 October 2004</td><td>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:22.1</td><td>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</td><td>Tom Coronel</td><td>18 August 2008</td><td>Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</td></tr><tr><td>
</td><td>7:24</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</td><td>Horst von Saurma</td><td>
</td><td>Sport Auto (11/2010)[10]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:24.22</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2011)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>October 2010</td><td>Nissan conducted test.[11] Semi-wet conditions.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:24.3</td><td>Maserati MC12</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:24.44</td><td>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:25.7</td><td>Ferrari Enzo</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:26.4</td><td>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</td><td>Jim Mero</td><td>27 June 2008</td><td>General Motors conducted test,[12] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:26.70</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2009)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>23 April 2009</td><td>Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[13]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:27.82</td><td>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>September 2007</td><td>Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]</td></tr><tr><td>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</td><td>7:28.71</td><td>Porsche Carrera GT</td><td>Walter Röhrl</td><td>2 July 2004</td><td>(07/04) [15]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:29.03</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2009)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>17 April 2008</td><td>Nissan Motors conducted test,.[16][17][18] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:32.02</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</td><td>Walter Röhrl</td><td>2007</td><td>Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]</td></tr><tr><td>
</td><td>7:33</td><td>Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII</td><td>Horst von Saurma</td><td>
</td><td>Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [20]</td></tr></tbody></table><table style="font-size: 90%;" id="sortable_table_id_0" class="wikitable sortable"><tbody><tr><td>(67,600 ft)</td><td>7:18</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</td><td>Timo Kluck</td><td>April 2010</td><td>[7] [8] Manufacturer claim.</td></tr><tr><td>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</td><td>7:18.1</td><td>Donkervoort D8 RS</td><td>Michael Düchting</td><td>24 October 2004</td><td>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:22.1</td><td>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</td><td>Tom Coronel</td><td>18 August 2008</td><td>Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</td></tr><tr><td>
</td><td>7:24</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</td><td>Horst von Saurma</td><td>
</td><td>Sport Auto (11/2010)[10]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:24.22</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2011)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>October 2010</td><td>Nissan conducted test.[11] Semi-wet conditions.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:24.3</td><td>Maserati MC12</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:24.44</td><td>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:25.7</td><td>Ferrari Enzo</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:26.4</td><td>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</td><td>Jim Mero</td><td>27 June 2008</td><td>General Motors conducted test,[12] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:26.70</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2009)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>23 April 2009</td><td>Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[13]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:27.82</td><td>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>September 2007</td><td>Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]</td></tr><tr><td>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</td><td>7:28.71</td><td>Porsche Carrera GT</td><td>Walter Röhrl</td><td>2 July 2004</td><td>(07/04) [15]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:29.03</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2009)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>17 April 2008</td><td>Nissan Motors conducted test,.[16][17][18] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:32.02</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</td><td>Walter Röhrl</td><td>2007</td><td>Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]</td></tr><tr><td>
</td><td>7:33</td><td>Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII</td><td>Horst von Saurma</td><td>
</td><td>Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [20]</td></tr></tbody></table><table style="font-size: 90%;" id="sortable_table_id_0" class="wikitable sortable"><tbody><tr><td>(67,600 ft)</td><td>7:18</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</td><td>Timo Kluck</td><td>April 2010</td><td>[7] [8] Manufacturer claim.</td></tr><tr><td>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</td><td>7:18.1</td><td>Donkervoort D8 RS</td><td>Michael Düchting</td><td>24 October 2004</td><td>Sport auto (Germany) (Article)</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:22.1</td><td>Dodge Viper ACR (2009)</td><td>Tom Coronel</td><td>18 August 2008</td><td>Chrysler conducted test,[9] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option|title=Dodge Viper ACR Sets Nurburgring Lap Record video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).</td></tr><tr><td>
</td><td>7:24</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 RS</td><td>Horst von Saurma</td><td>
</td><td>Sport Auto (11/2010)[10]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:24.22</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2011)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>October 2010</td><td>Nissan conducted test.[11] Semi-wet conditions.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:24.3</td><td>Maserati MC12</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:24.44</td><td>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:25.7</td><td>Ferrari Enzo</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>August 2008</td><td>Evo Magazine conducted test. It had a broken electronic damper on its run.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:26.4</td><td>Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)</td><td>Jim Mero</td><td>27 June 2008</td><td>General Motors conducted test,[12] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer)| 20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:26.70</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2009)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>23 April 2009</td><td>Nissan Motors conducted test. video confirmed. Best Motoring (08/2009).[13]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)</td><td>7:27.82</td><td>Pagani Zonda F Clubsport</td><td>Marc Basseng</td><td>September 2007</td><td>Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]</td></tr><tr><td>20,600 m (67,600 ft)</td><td>7:28.71</td><td>Porsche Carrera GT</td><td>Walter Röhrl</td><td>2 July 2004</td><td>(07/04) [15]</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:29.03</td><td>Nissan GT-R (2009)</td><td>Toshio Suzuki</td><td>17 April 2008</td><td>Nissan Motors conducted test,.[16][17][18] The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.</td></tr><tr><td>20,832 m (68,346 ft)[citation needed]</td><td>7:32.02</td><td>Porsche 911 GT2 (2008)</td><td>Walter Röhrl</td><td>2007</td><td>Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]</td></tr><tr><td>
</td><td>7:33</td><td>Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII</td><td>Horst von Saurma</td><td>
</td><td>Sport Auto (04/2010), PCCB [20]</td></tr></tbody></table>

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburgring_lap_times

I would use the term 'destroy' when referring to a straight line, not a track.

I can quote articles and times too:

http://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ap_and_lightning_lap_2011_sector_times_page_7

That was not the point of my post. The point of my post was to enjoy the NSX for what it does best. As it does things that no other car in its price point can do. Which is why many people who sell the car come back.

NetViper · 4 January 2011

I would like to see what a CTSC and Turbo NSX would do on the lightning lap.

still love my nsx, but............

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