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The Official 2010 F1 Megathread

What's really going on with Ferrari anyway? Is the pace real? Or just faked with light fuel load? Or did they upgrade their engine, as only Ferrari is allowed to do because they are Ferrari?
 
myhui said:
What's really going on with Ferrari anyway? Is the pace real? Or just faked with light fuel load? Or did they upgrade their engine, as only Ferrari is allowed to do because they are Ferrari?
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Its a very good sign for Ferrari especially after the pre-season rumors that the car was going to be slow.
I believe Mclaren had the fastest individual sector times but dont know if the car was changed between those times; IE a flat wing would give highest top speed one session, change to max down force giving highest speed in the slow stuff.
I do believe engine efficiency/fuel burn will be a factor. To what degree remains to be seen.
Ferrari has never been an efficient fuel burner. Their vision has always been power and the rules for the last few years have favored that.

Bernie is sure to make the Cossie competitive one way or another.
He never wants the manufacturers to have a near strangle hold like they had in the FOTA wars. FOTA had its chance and now its just a sham. Too bad.
 
Re: "Turn out the lights..........

the party's over....."

After the PR staff have left, no one's around to stop the pointy haired manager and engineer from promptly opening mouth, inserting foot, er......feet. :rolleyes:

.....Windsor told AUTOSPORT earlier this week: "I am still with the team," while Anderson later responded with: "Peter is still here at the moment, not sure what he is up to, stay tuned......"
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http://www.racer.com/us-f1-seeks-permission-to-miss-races/article/164183/

"At the moment........" ???:eek: Sheeesh :rolleyes:
 
Things I miss about Brawn GP

Radio chat from engineer to driver:

"Awesome, Jenson, AWESOME !"​

What can that same engineer say to Michael Schumacher now? Certainly not what he said to Jenson Button last year.
 
Peaking in...

18 DAYS, 16 HOURS, 44 MINUTES AND 16 SECONDS BEFORE THE BAHRAIN GP

Peaking out...
 
Re: Turn out the lights.............

at USF1 and give Stefan GP some tires to test and the 13th grid spot.

This is just a sample of the latest damning evidence. :redface::frown::mad:

"........In a meeting between the employees, Windsor and Anderson, Windsor put the question up to the employees: 'Who here doesn't think we'll make Bahrain?' I think Windsor might have meant it somewhat rhetorically, but he was answered nonetheless, and 100 per cent of the staff raised their hands. He was visibly shocked......"
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Sheesh, how's that for the perfect example of the Dilbert style clueless pointy-haired boss?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81664

OK, that's it, time to focus on those who will be there; Lotus and Virgin. I'm curious as hell to see if Wirth and his CFD design is as groundbreaking as Brawn was last year. ????? Probably not gonna happen, but one can hope. :smile:
 
Tedroe, let USF1 go. If they make the grid, they make the grid. If not, they don't.

It's a dead horse.
 
Re: Dead horse is already buried.

It's a dead horse.
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Absolutely. Guess I'm on the wrong forum with this post since others out there are gritting their teeth and wringing their hands, hoping against hope that USF1 is not dead. And the scholarly pundits have been uncharacteristically restrained and have not finally pronounced them dead yet either. But Peter's dream has been dead in my mind since December. I just laugh out loud at the way the story is coming out at this late date. :eek:

On to other things, I just want to know why Stefan could not get some lousy tires to test; they are being proactive and innovative with 1) being ready to race this year and, 2) as a contingency, doing a potential year long testing program. So why doesn't Bernie and Todt let them have some stupid tires???? :confused: And don't give me that "rules is rules" lame excuse. This is F-1 where "we make the rules as we go along, for gawd's sake." :biggrin::wink:
 
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Good summary of what wrong at USFI from Autosport:


Autosport said:
"Team US F1 boss Ken Anderson has broken his silence about what went wrong at his outfit in its preparations for this year - as he keeps his hopes up that the Charlotte-based operation can try again to get on the grid for 2011.

Just prior to the FIA officially confirming for the first time that US F1 will not be racing this season, Anderson spoke to AUTOSPORT to explain how the team's preparations were rocked by the political battles, and the threat of an F1 breakaway series - which marred the 2009 season.

But he says the final blow to the team came in the middle of January, when a key sponsor failed to fulfil its promises to the team and did not deliver expected funding.

"The way the chips fell in January, that put us behind," said Anderson, who revealed that talks had taken place with Campos, Stefan GP and Toyota in recent weeks to try and help his outfit get on the grid. "[Then] there was really no point in trying to show up any time this year once you have missed the testing, and there is no testing during the year.

"There is no point in trying to miss races and show up, just to show up," he added. "That would just look bad for everybody.

"It has been very difficult for all the new teams to get to the first tests - but once the racing season starts, with no testing, if you have problems it is just very difficult to solve them."

Anderson is still awaiting confirmation from the FIA about whether his team can get another entry for the 2011 championship, with an announcement expected in the next few days about what the application criteria will be.

If US F1 does not get a swift go-ahead for 2011 then Anderson fears its operation may need to be shut down completely. If it does get a green light, then he is bullish about its prospects for next year.

"What we want to do is regroup, finish the car for 2011, be testing late summer/early fall (autumn), and be really ready for next year," he said. "The irony of the situation is - we filed our entry in December of 2008 and we were supposed to know something by March.

"We moved into this building [in Charlotte] in March, ready to go. Then, if you remember last year, that was when all hell broke loose with the FIA, FOTA, cost cap teams versus non cost cap teams and all that.

"Then everybody who wanted to get into F1, all the new teams, [they] tried to get in with the cost cap regulations... and we didn't get approved by the FIA until June 12. Then the Concorde Agreement wasn't signed to absolutely know that we could go forward until July 31. Losing those four months was always going to be difficult to recapture, but we were on schedule right up until mid-January, and that was when some issues arose with sponsors that kind of locked us up."

Anderson said he believed the FIA would not move to deliberately block US F1's plans for 2011 - although he was fearful about what the future would hold if it could not get a guaranteed entry soon.

AUTOSPORT understands that the possibility of granting US F1 an automatic entry for 2011 have already been ruled out by the FIA.

"I think we will get a yes or no from the FIA relatively quickly," he said. "It doesn't do anyone any good to prolong this.

"They have been very understanding and very helpful - and no-one is happy about the situation. I certainly don't get any impression that there is any vindictiveness or they want to shut us down. We have invested a lot of time and money, and built a proper F1 facility here, and have a lot of people carrying on it.

"If they [the FIA] turn us down, then we are done. We can do a really good job for next year. This year was going to be damage limitation anyway. We gave it our best shot, but once you get a little bit behind then there is no catching up.

"They understand, yes. We have offered solutions as to how we can be there for next year.

"A year ago they knew our business plan, and Charlie Whiting was here last week. We did what we said we were going to do. A couple of CFD people were here, parts were made, and companies made parts for us. There is no doubt we can make a car, the doubt is can we make it in the next 30 weeks - or however much time we needed to do it."

Anderson also confirmed that team partners Chad Hurley and Peter Windsor remained on board - despite various speculations in recent week about their future.

"The situation is that nobody has left anybody. Everybody is still on board. We were exploring different options - we weren't calling the press to say, 'Hey, we are going to talk to Campos.' We tried to keep it under wraps a little bit.

"We chat to Chad every day, and he has been great. Chad did everything he said he was going to do. He put the money in. He got us to where we could go racing. He never agreed to sponsor the team - and as you can imagine that is a pretty significant number in itself.

"As of January 15, we were right on course for where we said we were going to be. But then when the stuff did not show up - then the warning bells started sounding. I scrambled to keep it together, but I just couldn't do it quick enough.

"Peter has now gone back to England, but he lives there. He has stayed in a hotel here for the last three months.

"We are well and truly on hold until we hear from the FIA because there really is nothing we can do. There is no point spending a lot of money finishing the car if they say no. If they say yes then we can have everybody back by the end of the week."

Anderson claims that the team already has investors lined up to help fund its plans for 2011 - but this would require it getting an entry.

When asked if Hurley would continue his involvement if the team went forward, Anderson said: "Chad would participate. He would not put all the money in. We have other investors who want to buy into the company, but it is in Chad's interest, if it keeps going, to stay involved. He is in, but he is not going to pay for the whole thing. We do have investors lined up to do that."
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Sigh.
 
8 DAYS, 17 HOURS, 22 MINUTES AND 42 SECONDS BEFORE THE BAHRAIN GP

...that is all. ;)
 
Don't be sad my American friends for non US team in starting grid.Sure it would be the most interesting season from last 15 years,can't wait next week.
 
One more week for the first race of the season, gents! :biggrin:
 
Re: The most looked forward to F-1 season ever??

I think that's what they said on Speed yesterday anyway. I kind of doubt that after reading Steve Matchett's book "A Mechanic's Tale", but it will be a damned interesting season nonetheless with all the intricate combinations of tire choices, super diffusers, fuel weights/milage, former champions on the grid, and the new rolling chicanes (sometimes called new teams). :rolleyes:

And..........I'll be looking for the first guy at the races seen wearing USF1 gear !!! Now, that's something to look forward to. :biggrin: :tongue: (Email Hrant to let him know there's a market :wink:)
 
Miner said:
Just about 24 hours to the first practice session.

The first race starts at 0500 on the west coast. So much for sleeping late on Sundays for the next 6 months!

Miner
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I'm in Little Rock temporarily, so I don't have cable. I'm trying to find a place to watch the race. I don't like watching them over justin.tv or any other similar sites, really crappy quality. Guess I'm gonna have to wait till someone posts the race on racing-underground.
 
Or try to post in the SE Regional forum and see if a local NSX owner will take you in. :)
 
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Practice 1 Times:
1. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:56.583 18 laps
2. Alonso Ferrari 1:56.766 + 0.183 18 laps
3. Kubica Renault 1:57.041 + 0.458 19 laps
4. Massa Ferrari 1:57.055 + 0.472 19 laps
5. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:57.068 + 0.485 19 laps
6. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:57.163 + 0.580 19 laps
7. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:57.194 + 0.611 19 laps
8. Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:57.199 + 0.616 15 laps
9. Webber Red Bull Racing 1:57.255 + 0.672 17 laps
10. Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:57.662 + 1.079 16 laps
11. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:57.722 + 1.139 18 laps
12. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:57.894 + 1.311 20 laps
13. Vettel Red Bull Racing 1:57.943 + 1.360 17 laps
14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:58.399 + 1.816 13 laps
15. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:58.782 + 2.199 11 laps
16. Petrov Renault 1:58.880 + 2.297 13 laps
17. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 2:00.250 + 3.667 18 laps
18. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 2:01.388 + 4.805 11 laps
19. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:03.680 + 7.097 8 laps
20. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 2:03.848 + 7.265 21 laps
21. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 2:03.970 + 7.387 15 laps
22. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 2 laps
23. Senna HRT-Cosworth 3 laps
24. Chandhok HRT-Cosworth

Practice 2 Times:
1. Rosberg Mercedes 1:55.409 23 laps
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:55.854 + 0.445 22 laps
3. Schumacher Mercedes 1:55.903 + 0.494 23 laps
4. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:56.076 + 0.667 28 laps
5. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:56.459 + 1.050 18 laps
6. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:56.501 + 1.092 26 laps
7. Massa Ferrari 1:56.555 + 1.146 30 laps
8. Petrov Renault 1:56.750 + 1.341 26 laps
9. Alonso Ferrari 1:57.140 + 1.731 25 laps
10. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.255 + 1.846 24 laps
11. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.352 + 1.943 27 laps
12. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:57.361 + 1.952 29 laps
13. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:57.452 + 2.043 21 laps
14. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:57.833 + 2.424 29 laps
15. Kubica Renault 1:58.155 + 2.746 29 laps
16. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:59.799 + 4.390 31 laps
17. Webber Red Bull-Renault 2:00.444 + 5.035 12 laps
18. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 2:00.873 + 5.464 23 laps
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 2:00.990 + 5.581 14 laps
20. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:02.037 + 6.628 3 laps
21. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 2:02.188 + 6.779 21 laps
22. Senna HRT-Cosworth 2:06.968 + 11.559 17 laps
23. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1 laps
24. Chandhok HRT-Cosworth
 

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