I don't think the 911 sales figures are exclusively a "function over form" argument as there is a very large badge bias at play here. Porsche makes nothing but high end performance vehicles and the general public is aware of it. So if you say "I have a Porsche" it conjurs up images that saying "I have an Audi" or worse "I have an Acura" create.
Comparatively speaking (sales numbers etc) you are in the minority....
Interesting fact since 2014, 25% of 911 sales (991.1 & 991.2) are Turbo/S models.
They should have used a detuned F1 "hybrid" powertrain for RWD only and no electric motors on the front wheels.
The detuned system would still be somewhat reliable. It would still be a "hybrid" sorta. It would have clear racing lineage ties for marketing.
I've driven the new NSX and do not like the steering artificiality at all. It is quick though.
They should have used a detuned F1 "hybrid" powertrain for RWD only and no electric motors on the front wheels.
The detuned system would still be somewhat reliable. It would still be a "hybrid" sorta. It would have clear racing lineage ties for marketing.
I've driven the new NSX and do not like the steering artificiality at all. It is quick though.
i think the 720s just did...It wouldn't be able to get those 0-60 times no matter how much power it has if it doesn't have AWD. I wonder how heavy (maybe lighter) it would have been if they used a traditional dif for AWD and made the torque-fill motor bigger.
i think the 720s just did...
I have yet to hear from anyone "with reasonable seat" time say the artificial steering (or braking or accelerating) is noticeably artificial and undesirable.
the artificial steering is a bit shit... :biggrin:
I have yet to hear from anyone "with reasonable seat" time say the artificial steering (or braking or accelerating) is noticeably artificial and undesirable. Too many are just judging this new tech based assumptions vs. old tech standards and expecting sensations when driving to be the same. It's not and they won't be. It's better! Under most conditions the tech is undetectable. I have yet to detect it after about 3600 miles in the seat under all but track conditions. And in IMHO it's way better. Maybe not if my MAIN AND ONLY Goal was track. But I don't plan to track it nor have I with my GT-R which is probably more suitable. I want to enjoy and explore what it is under a variety of real world on the assorted roads (not track conditions) and so far it is much more than ever imagined. And I know I'm still learning.
I think all the doubting Thomas's and/or those who are looking just to knock it down or for an excuse not to appreciate it, they should read this:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...the-acura-nsx/
I can only say, more seat time lets me understand and appreciate what this car really is and what it can do like no other super/hyper car can... and with so much ease. I absolutely love it! If you don't like it, that is OK. If you are looking for a Track monster and only that... look elsewhere. It's not a dedicated Track Monster and was never intended to be one. There are plenty of alternative choices at assorted prices of those.
But if you haven't really had a lot of seat time, hold off on making unqualified statements. This car truly is 4 totally different cars in one. If the R&T guys did their 2500 mi trip in any other upper end B,F,L,Mc,P etc. car I doubt it would have taken as little time as it did and/or been as OVERALL rewarding&enjoyable a ride. I think in time (hopefully) the uneducated will be come educated and eventually actually get it for what it is and can be vs what they think it should be. Once there, they may appreciate it, or just buy what they think is more suiting their needs. Till now, I think there hasn't been anything which can do all of what the new NSX can do, and do it as well. Time will tell.
OK
off my soap box.
There's a full-page ad for the NSX on page 4 of the July 10 & 17 issue of The New Yorker.
All the pics are indoor shots at PMC and the text is mostly about how great the factory and manufacturing techniques are.
In deference to Gadgetman, how many hours have you spent in one, away from the race track??
In deference to Gadgetman, how many hours have you spent in one, away from the race track??
I can't talk about track driving - only street driving.
You'd never care about artificial NSX steering just puttering around town, or punching it in a straight line, where honestly, most owners would drive it 99% of the time.
However, the artificial steering feel kills the driving experience in relatively-low-speed spirited street driving on backroads. It's very obvious. Sorry.
i think the 720s just did...