I'm thinking they'll be perfect for the new NSX. Oh, and maybe a Tesla, too. :biggrin:
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TESLA cars. Anyone else intrigued?
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Just keep a "trailing stop loss" in place and you'll be fine. Don't succumb to fear or greed. For anyone that trades for their own account, I HIGHLY recommend the book Trading For A Living by Dr. Alexander Elder. Go buy it immediately on Amazon. It is a short, easy, pleasurable read and you WILL thank me later.
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Thank you for the free advice, Hugh. I have a Financial Planner who's been taking care of my money for 5+ years. I'm in the low risk category. The one and only stock I've ever wanted was/is Tesla. As soon as it came out for public offering (July 2010) I told him to buy me $17,000 in shares, as a lark. :smile:
Hugh,
Even though I'm in the BIZ, I took your advice and ordered the book.
Bought it used from a Goodwill for $13.00!
Thanks! The online reviews were quite good.
Even though I'm in the BIZ, I took your advice and ordered the book.
Bought it used from a Goodwill for $13.00!
Thanks! The online reviews were quite good.
I'm not wrong. I'm not sure if you just jumped to your own conclusion, or didn't actually read what I said.
I was responding to KSXNSX comment of "...targeting a good demo that needs the SUV/minivan for the family.". Hence the quote above my reply...
I said X5 and Range Rover types might switch (read luxury SUV buyers :wink
but can't see anyone cross shopping a Model x against a minivan. Der.
Don't know if anyone has seen this yet - http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...a-models-s-porsche-jaguar-california/2700289/
Did you hold back because it was too damn quiet? :biggrin:
BTW, I sold 500 shares off today. I still have 455. I keep reading how it's over priced, yada yada yada and figure I'd play it a little bit safe.
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Someone told me that today but I hadn't seen the article. Thank you for sharing. Printed for my file.
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We've decided to go for Model X next year. You're right it's too damn quiet for my liking but my 'green' wifey loves everything about it. Good for her
I have't sold any share yet since my good 'ol advisor was against selling. Going to wait 'til Model X hits the market.
We've decided to go for Model X next year. You're right it's too damn quiet for my liking but my 'green' wifey loves everything about it. Good for her
I have't sold any share yet since my good 'ol advisor was against selling. Going to wait 'til Model X hits the market.
^There's just something majorly lacking when you're a car person and don't hear a thing, as you get pushed back in the seat.
There are different engine sound makers on the market. I wonder how many Tesla owners bought one.
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Tesla sells cars directly, through its own stores, with uniform
pricing and staff that isn't on commission.
Texas only allows cars to be sold through franchised dealers,
and not because the public spoke up and said they just love
hearing "I've got to ask my manager about that price" as part of
the experience of buying a car -- but rather because of lobbying
efforts of the Texas Automobile Dealers Association.
Thus you have to jump through hoops to buy a Telsa in Texas.
pricing and staff that isn't on commission.
Texas only allows cars to be sold through franchised dealers,
and not because the public spoke up and said they just love
hearing "I've got to ask my manager about that price" as part of
the experience of buying a car -- but rather because of lobbying
efforts of the Texas Automobile Dealers Association.
Thus you have to jump through hoops to buy a Telsa in Texas.
Hot potato is right, look at this Model S on fire:
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Don't worry. They want that. Buy more, that's all. Analyst downgrade is a crock. Fire was staged. My new NSX was because of smart wife and TSLA. :biggrin:
October 4, 2013
About the Model S fire
By Elon Musk, Chairman, Product Architect & CEO
Earlier this week, a Model S traveling at highway speed struck a large metal object, causing significant damage to the vehicle. A curved section that fell off a semi-trailer was recovered from the roadway near where the accident occurred and, according to the road crew that was on the scene, appears to be the culprit. The geometry of the object caused a powerful lever action as it went under the car, punching upward and impaling the Model S with a peak force on the order of 25 tons. Only a force of this magnitude would be strong enough to punch a 3 inch diameter hole through the quarter inch armor plate protecting the base of the vehicle.
The Model S owner was nonetheless able to exit the highway as instructed by the onboard alert system, bring the car to a stop and depart the vehicle without injury. A fire caused by the impact began in the front battery module – the battery pack has a total of 16 modules – but was contained to the front section of the car by internal firewalls within the pack. Vents built into the battery pack directed the flames down towards the road and away from the vehicle.
When the fire department arrived, they observed standard procedure, which was to gain access to the source of the fire by puncturing holes in the top of the battery's protective metal plate and applying water. For the Model S lithium-ion battery, it was correct to apply water (vs. dry chemical extinguisher), but not to puncture the metal firewall, as the newly created holes allowed the flames to then vent upwards into the front trunk section of the Model S. Nonetheless, a combination of water followed by dry chemical extinguisher quickly brought the fire to an end.
It is important to note that the fire in the battery was contained to a small section near the front by the internal firewalls built into the pack structure. At no point did fire enter the passenger compartment.
Had a conventional gasoline car encountered the same object on the highway, the result could have been far worse. A typical gasoline car only has a thin metal sheet protecting the underbody, leaving it vulnerable to destruction of the fuel supply lines or fuel tank, which causes a pool of gasoline to form and often burn the entire car to the ground. In contrast, the combustion energy of our battery pack is only about 10% of the energy contained in a gasoline tank and is divided into 16 modules with firewalls in between. As a consequence, the effective combustion potential is only about 1% that of the fuel in a comparable gasoline sedan.
The nationwide driving statistics make this very clear: there are 150,000 car fires per year according to the National Fire Protection Association, and Americans drive about 3 trillion miles per year according to the Department of Transportation. That equates to 1 vehicle fire for every 20 million miles driven, compared to 1 fire in over 100 million miles for Tesla. This means you are 5 times more likely to experience a fire in a conventional gasoline car than a Tesla!
For consumers concerned about fire risk, there should be absolutely zero doubt that it is safer to power a car with a battery than a large tank of highly flammable liquid.
— Elon
Below is our email correspondence with the Model S owner that experienced the fire, reprinted with his permission:
From: robert Carlson
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:53 PM
To: Jerome Guillen
Subject: carlson 0389
Mr. Guillen,
Thanks for the support. I completely agree with the assessment to date. I guess you can test for everything, but some other celestial bullet comes along and challenges your design. I agree that the car performed very well under such an extreme test. The batteries went through a controlled burn which the internet images really exaggerates. Anyway, I am still a big fan of your car and look forward to getting back into one. Justin offered a white loaner--thanks. I am also an investor and have to say that the response I am observing is really supportive of the future for electric vehicles. I was thinking this was bound to happen, just not to me. But now it is out there and probably gets a sigh of relief as a test and risk issue-this "doomsday" event has now been tested, and the design and engineering works.
rob carlson
On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jerome Guillen wrote:
Dear Mr. Carlson:
I am the VP of sales and service for Tesla, reporting directly to Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO.
I am sorry to hear that you experienced a collision in your Model S 2 days ago. We are happy that the Model S performed in such a way that you were not injured in the accident and that nobody else was hurt.
I believe you have been in contact with Justin Samson, our service manager, since the accident. We are following this case extremely closely and we have sent a team of experts to review your vehicle. All indications are that your Model S drove over large, oddly-shaped metal object which impacted the leading edge of the vehicle's undercarriage and rotated into the underside of the vehicle ("pole vault" effect). This is a highly uncommon occurrence.
Based on our review thus far, we believe that the Model S performed as designed by limiting the resulting fire to the affected zones only. Given the significant intensity of the impact, which managed to pierce the 1/4 inch bottom plate (something that is extremely hard to do), the Model S energy containment functions operated correctly. In particular, the top cover of the battery provided a strong barrier and there was no apparent propagation of the fire into the cabin. This ensured cabin integrity and occupant safety, which remains our most important goal.
We very much appreciate your support, patience and understanding while we proceed with the investigation. Justin keeps me closely informed. Please feel free to contact me directly, if you have any question or concern.
Best regards,
Jerome Guillen I VP, WW sales and service
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Glad you enjoyed the book and hoping you followed Elder's advice and got out this pig stock before it took it's first big dump.
Tesla sure is down. It will be interesting to see if it gets high again in the next couple of years.
Might pick some up if the valuation gets in the 6-8 billion level. That's still 40-50% down from where it's at today though. Nothing to do with the fires except it's helping get the stock down toward almost* reasonable levels.
Didn't take a couple of years, just released 2013 Q4 results and it shot to $223
Good day for stock Tesla holders.
^ Tesla breaks $200 on 2-10-2014.
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P/E ratio is up the roof, 1140
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