pbassjo said:
"how many" I understand but what's the difference where the signal is coming from ?
BTW, what ever happened to "RaDaRkInG" ???
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"how many" I understand but what's the difference where the signal is coming from ?
BTW, what ever happened to "RaDaRkInG" ???
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It helps you spot where it's coming from. If you know that you're getting a signal from up ahead of you, you can wait until you're approaching on-ramps and median crossovers before slowing down (or wait to see if it increases in frequency - and if it does, you can scan oncoming traffic). If you know that you're getting a signal from behind you, you can decide whether to speed up or maintain speed or slow down (all of which can be appropriate, depending on the circumstances). Also, if you pass a parked enforcement vehicle, and you are getting a signal ahead of you, you may wish to slow down more than if you know that the signal you are getting is behind you, from the one you just passed.NSX-GUY said:
Too much thinking involved (I think).
If my detector goes off my foot comes right off the gas and I coast (or hit the brake depending on my speed) down to "legal" unless it's in an area where I know I get a lot of "falses".......
From that point on I'll look around until the intensity begins to die or goes away altogether.
If my detector goes off my foot comes right off the gas and I coast (or hit the brake depending on my speed) down to "legal" unless it's in an area where I know I get a lot of "falses".......
From that point on I'll look around until the intensity begins to die or goes away altogether.
I just got the Beltronics Top of the line radar detector and laser jammer. This thing works amazing, they bolt into the bumpers of the car the laser jammer and redar detector and flush mount the reciver in the dash. It looks very clean and works incredible, and comes with a speaker to warn you instead of just a light. It cost $1200 installed but a ticket going 120mph will possibly get you thrown in jail and a fine close to that amount. I will get you some photos as soon as I get my car back from Santini repainting it custom black with a deep blue pearl. Let me know if you want photos of the Radar system.
The arrows have also helped me to figure out which car was the undercover cop... he was driving a chrysler concorde... it also helps u to figure out whether the cop is driving from the other direction...
spike said:
But why do you care ? Will you pass him more slowly ?
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: If the signal is coming from the other direction it would be literally seconds before it's come and gone. The beeps would/could tell you that.
Is there anybody here that doesn't immediately come off the gas when the detector sounds off ?
Another benifit of the arrows, at least to me, is in Pa there are radar guns mounted on traffic info boards some have them some don't and some are present but not turned on.So the arrows confirm that the scource of the signals is the sign and not a reall hidden smokey.Of course Hugh cares nothing of this therefore it is a usless feature!!:tongue:
docjohn said:
So if the arrows "point" to a sign you pay no attention to them ???
I wonder if "smokey" knows that as well ?!?!?! Ya think ???
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:Oyy Vey, let me explain, if the arrow is telling me I just passed the scource of the signal and it was the sign then I am more comfortable keeping pace.Of course local knowledge of the roads/hiding places is as important.Obviously some of you will not be convinced that the arrows serve a usefull purpose,thats ok Ken and I will sleep ok.
docjohn said:
Until you encounter the trooper who's smart enough to be parked near the sign after it's been up long enough to give the "locals" a false sense of security. And yes, they are utterly useless and nothing more than a marketing gimmick. The proof of which are the senseless left and right arrows. Even someone who dropped out of Police Radar 101 would know that a radar gun can't make a measurement from the side.
Where I live, Id rather get a ticket for speeding than hit the brakes to notify the cop that Ive got a detector. So all I can do is pray that I get enough notice, or that the cop is not behind me to see the brake lights.
Ive got a Bel STi because it is not detectable by detector detectors. Id love to get a laser jammer, because when I come across speed traps, they're almost always lasers, but again, Id have to hit the brakes quickly and that'd be a sure fire way to get my car searched.
Ive been happy with my Bel, but given the choice, I think that Id prefer a V1 for the arrows. Perhaps the 8500 with the laser jammer would be the best choice, but again, Id get detected by the hoards of SPECTRE detector detectors that are out looking for detector users, who are clearly more dangerous to the public than serial murderers.
Where I live, we have NO CHOICE in which detector to use. Anything other than a STi is tricky and even with that, you better escape the ticket without giving yourself away.
Ive got a Bel STi because it is not detectable by detector detectors. Id love to get a laser jammer, because when I come across speed traps, they're almost always lasers, but again, Id have to hit the brakes quickly and that'd be a sure fire way to get my car searched.
Ive been happy with my Bel, but given the choice, I think that Id prefer a V1 for the arrows. Perhaps the 8500 with the laser jammer would be the best choice, but again, Id get detected by the hoards of SPECTRE detector detectors that are out looking for detector users, who are clearly more dangerous to the public than serial murderers.
Where I live, we have NO CHOICE in which detector to use. Anything other than a STi is tricky and even with that, you better escape the ticket without giving yourself away.
docjohn said:
I'm not saying they don't work. Of course they "work". They light up don't they? What I'm saying is they're about as useful as brake lights on a submarine.
I have a Passport 8500 in one vehicle and the latest V1, with POP3 in my NSX.
The V1 has a few more false alerts than the Passport 8500 but is IMO mush more useful because of the arrows.
Knowing where the threat is makes a big difference in how I react and just as important how I proceed.
With the 8500 when I get a warning, I'm looking everywhere to see where "they" are and it is important and can make a difference if I can't find them before they have me. Just hitting the brakes is not always the best response to a warning.
The location arrows on the V1 are the reason why I prefer it to the Passport 8500.
The V1 has a few more false alerts than the Passport 8500 but is IMO mush more useful because of the arrows.
Knowing where the threat is makes a big difference in how I react and just as important how I proceed.
With the 8500 when I get a warning, I'm looking everywhere to see where "they" are and it is important and can make a difference if I can't find them before they have me. Just hitting the brakes is not always the best response to a warning.
The location arrows on the V1 are the reason why I prefer it to the Passport 8500.
pbassjo said:
Or make sure Mike Valentine isn't manning the sonar. :biggrin:
pbassjo said:
You might find your time more efficiently used if you just looked ahead and behind you. "Everywhere" is a bit extreme isn't it? But even still what's the point? A radar gun will have a lock on you long before you can actually see the source. It's very simple.....you hear the warning, you take evasive action. You don't look at the silly arrows on your detector and try to find the police car. The only thing that accomplishes is distracting you from the road.
You'll never "find them before they have me". That's the detector's job. Your job is to slow down.
You're going to encounter only a few types of signals when you're out there. The first and most deadly is full strength instant on. This will either occur when there's almost no one else on the road or the officer is being very selective about who he samples. Unless you're VERY fast on the brake pedal, you're clocked. End of story.
If you're getting intermittant signals that get stronger as time goes by it's one of two things. 1. You are approaching a fixed or moving instant-on site ahead of you or 2. It's a car on your ass with instant on sampling traffic and moving faster than you are. This scenario can last anywhere from a few seconds to several miles depending on the source of the radar. You're going to slow down and blend into traffic regardless of what the arrows say.
The next scenario is a steady signal that gets stronger as time goes by. Either you are approaching a fixed constant-on site or a moving source is gaining on you. Either way, you're going to slow down until the detector sounds the all clear, regardless of which arrow is lit up.
You guys have just gotten used to your little arrows and you've payed almost twice as much as anyone else has for your detectors so of course you're going to defend your little arrows till you die. I can understand that and I sympathize with you. On the other hand, I drive about 50,000 miles per year. And have been for the last 30 years or so which is probably more than any 3 or 4 of you put together. Nothing is more valuable than experience and I can tell you from experience that the little arrows mean squat. The rest of the V1 is a great radar detector. It is just as capable as the best offerings from Bel and Escort in the real world. As long as you go with one of these top of the line machines you can't go wrong. Just learn to interpret the audible warnings and keep your eyes on the road.
Sounds to me like Hugh has never used a V1. Once you have, you never go back. I've tried 'em all. They all pale in comparison. I do drive 50K miles/yr, too, BTW. The price difference above other units is less than the cost of one speeding ticket, which you will one day get, if you're not using a V1.
Once you have, you never go back. I've tried 'em all. They all pale in comparison. I do drive 50K miles/yr, too, BTW. The price difference above other units is less than the cost of one speeding ticket, which you will one day get, if you're not using a V1.
Hugh, nothing beats a V1 that has been polished to perfection with Zymol, the "Zymes" increase the range 5 fold!!!! :biggrin:
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porkpie74 said:
I have the same unit in my car, the RX75 Plus. See pix on this thread here. It works great, rarely falses, and I don't have to have wires or a bulky unit sitting on my dash. I've had one occasion when I have experienced it jamming laser fixated on my car. My friends with V1s love my detector.
As for the arrows, some people find them useful, some don't. I'm with Hugh, if the radar alert comes I personally don't care where it's coming from. Don't drive fast while it's alerting, how hard is that?
What you don't want to do is use your detector as a reason to drive illegally. Most of the time I'm alerted I'm not breaking any rules. I've never gotten pulled over in my NSXs. When I've gotten speeding tickets in my other cars, I was paced w/o radar on the freeway. Driving smart is the best deterrent from getting tickets and detectors aren't going to save your butt every time. I know plenty of people who are speeding ticket free who don't have detectors. They speed sometimes but they just drive smart...
V1 vs Passport 8500 scenarios I have personally experienced.
Major highway that has few exits and crosses over many roads.
You get a left arrow and you know it's radar being run on a side cross road that does not enter your road.NO slowing down or hitting the brakes.
Similar scenario but with large buildings or warehouse, again with no access to the highway. They set the alarm off.
With the 8500 I'm slowing down and hitting the brakes so for either of these for nothing.
Even the beep function on the V1 is better. Hit a highway sign that sends out a signal, same frequency as radar and I can tell what it is with the V1. Passport 8500 you just better slow down.
It sounds like some people's reactions are perfect for detectors like the 8500. You know that you have a signal, not how many or from what area(s) you just slow down and hit the brakes. That's what I do with my Passport 8500 too.
The V1 gives me more information that I can use and I feel more confidant and better protected with that detector.
The blue lights on the Passport 8500 is very nice but after having both for some time (the Passport 8500 is in my daily driver and what I spend the most time with) it is not the detector I prefer. Knowing what I know now I would have two V1's instead.
Swapping my V1 detector between cars had me dropping it on the concrete floor one too many times and cracking the case.
I sent it in for a POP3 update and repair after years(?) of ownership and got a new detector at a greatly reduced rate which makes it seem more the bargain. Incidentally that was when I also got my 8500 too which I have had for about 1 1/2 years.
I would have no problem switching to another detector if I found one I like more. I just don't want another detector that goes off leaving me wondering is it radar, a sign, a building, or any/all of these on another road or, something aimed at cars ahead of me, soon to be aimed at me that I am driving into.
One last scenario. You are driving on a road you take everyday and at the same place you always get a alert, It's not radar and you know it but one day there is radar there. Surprise with the 8500. With the V1, I instantly see there are 2 sources where there usually is one and from a different direction. No more sad surprise.
I like the idea of laser jamming but I have been told by Traffic Police that in NY having a device that transmits a signal, like many jammers do is a violation of the FCC. I've been told that you need a license to transmit and they can confiscate the device. I'm in NY and been told this by local and State Police officers. Does anyone have link, with certifiable information, not sales literature, that gives the real skinny on this? Is this baloney?
Major highway that has few exits and crosses over many roads.
You get a left arrow and you know it's radar being run on a side cross road that does not enter your road.NO slowing down or hitting the brakes.
Similar scenario but with large buildings or warehouse, again with no access to the highway. They set the alarm off.
With the 8500 I'm slowing down and hitting the brakes so for either of these for nothing.
Even the beep function on the V1 is better. Hit a highway sign that sends out a signal, same frequency as radar and I can tell what it is with the V1. Passport 8500 you just better slow down.
It sounds like some people's reactions are perfect for detectors like the 8500. You know that you have a signal, not how many or from what area(s) you just slow down and hit the brakes. That's what I do with my Passport 8500 too.
The V1 gives me more information that I can use and I feel more confidant and better protected with that detector.
The blue lights on the Passport 8500 is very nice but after having both for some time (the Passport 8500 is in my daily driver and what I spend the most time with) it is not the detector I prefer. Knowing what I know now I would have two V1's instead.
Swapping my V1 detector between cars had me dropping it on the concrete floor one too many times and cracking the case.
I sent it in for a POP3 update and repair after years(?) of ownership and got a new detector at a greatly reduced rate which makes it seem more the bargain. Incidentally that was when I also got my 8500 too which I have had for about 1 1/2 years.
I would have no problem switching to another detector if I found one I like more. I just don't want another detector that goes off leaving me wondering is it radar, a sign, a building, or any/all of these on another road or, something aimed at cars ahead of me, soon to be aimed at me that I am driving into.
One last scenario. You are driving on a road you take everyday and at the same place you always get a alert, It's not radar and you know it but one day there is radar there. Surprise with the 8500. With the V1, I instantly see there are 2 sources where there usually is one and from a different direction. No more sad surprise.
I like the idea of laser jamming but I have been told by Traffic Police that in NY having a device that transmits a signal, like many jammers do is a violation of the FCC. I've been told that you need a license to transmit and they can confiscate the device. I'm in NY and been told this by local and State Police officers. Does anyone have link, with certifiable information, not sales literature, that gives the real skinny on this? Is this baloney?
pbassjo said:
I guess you didn't bother to read your 8500's owner's manual. When you set the display to "expert mode" you can track and see the signal strengths for up to 8 radars. I also disabled the X detection on mine since it's not being used for anything but supermarket doors.
pbassjo said:
I'll find the link but the cops are handing you a line of bullshit. Laser jammers emit light, not an RF transmission and are therefore not currently enforced under any FCC regulations. As far as I know they are only enforced on the State level with only Minnesota and Utah having passed laws banning them.
Hugh said:I guess you didn't bother to read your 8500's owner's manual. When you set the display to "expert mode" you can track and see the signal strengths for up to 8 radars. I also disabled the X detection on mine since it's not being used for anything but supermarket doors.
Cool, I'll read it. Here the X band is still being used.
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