Yes I heard the same about the 40+ foot thing. At what altitude could the passengers be knocked out? With the no o2 wouldn't 35-37k work?
Yes. 30k feet would cause people without 02 to pass out and then die within a few minutes. Here are the official requirements.
Code of Federal Regulations
Sec. 91.211
Part 91 GENERAL OPERATING AND FLIGHT RULES | |
| Subpart C--Equipment, Instrument, and Certificate Requirements | |
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Sec. 91.211
Supplemental oxygen.
(a)
General. No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry--
(1) At cabin pressure altitudes above 12,500 feet (MSL) up to and including 14,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with and uses supplemental oxygen for that part of the flight at those altitudes that is of more than 30 minutes duration;
(2) At cabin pressure altitudes above 14,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with and uses supplemental oxygen during the entire flight time at those altitudes; and
(3) At cabin pressure altitudes above 15,000 feet (MSL) unless each occupant of the aircraft is provided with supplemental oxygen.
(b)
Pressurized cabin aircraft.
(1) No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry with a pressurized cabin--
(i) At flight altitudes above flight level 250 unless at least a 10-minute supply of supplemental oxygen, in addition to any oxygen required to satisfy paragraph (a) of this section, is available for each occupant of the aircraft for use in the event that a descent is necessitated by loss of cabin
pressurization; and
(ii) At flight altitudes above flight level 350 unless one pilot at the controls of the airplane is wearing and using an oxygen mask that is secured and sealed and that either supplies oxygen at all times or automatically supplies oxygen whenever the cabin pressure altitude of the airplane exceeds 14,000 feet (MSL), except that the one pilot need not wear and use an oxygen mask while at or below flight level 410 if there are two pilots at the controls and each pilot has a quick-donning type of oxygen mask that can be placed on the face with one hand from the ready position within 5 seconds, supplying oxygen and properly secured and sealed.
(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(1)(ii) of this section, if for any reason at any time it is necessary for one pilot to leave the controls of the aircraft when operating at flight altitudes above flight level 350, the remaining pilot at the controls shall put on and use an oxygen mask until the
other pilot has returned to that crewmember's station.
I also heard, just once on cnn I believe and I never heard it again, a friend of the pilot believed the pilot took the plane to do tricks and stunts that he had practiced on his simulator. This is why I posted what I did a few posts back.
That's pure BS. We train in a level D simulator (not the little one he had at home) and when there is extra time, they sometimes let us do whatever we want.... flying under bridges, double engine failures, etc., etc. I don't know a pilot in existence that would do "stunts" in a real commercial airliner even given the opportunity. The Sim is so realistic that if we wanted to do it, we could do it there with zero risk. And to be honest, it's not that big of a thrill.
This was the exception.... but jets were new.
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