You can ask all the questions you want, we may not answer it all:wink: Like, we really don't know how much the foam weights. the whole things weights ~3lbs..the foam? maybe .05lbs? we don't know. But suppose the one we make for Greg is 3.2lbs, plz don't call us names.
If you go to our website and click on the link saz See All The Dirt Here you should have enough info to make your decision to buy or not to buy. There used to be pix of the complete bumper beam but we'll post current progress next week.
We don't want to keep repeating ourselves. Your concerns of safety/crash-worthy-ness is valid and your cage builder is 100% correct.
If you are going fast enough and crash, no bumper is going to save your alum tub. And once they are bend, they are toast unless you play Tomaske. If you are going slow enough and the carbon beam cracked due to absorb the impact, that means its doing its job but there is no budget to determine that. Therefore, we can't be sure how much it would take to crush our beam or how much it would take not crushed then its best not buying this part as you might be disappointed not living up to your expectation.
We won't have any data nor we are going to crush one to provide the info you need. We are not here to convince you this is the cats meow so you should buy. You need to understand what you are buying. The price will surely go up after the 1st batch as we have yet to figure out how to quantify the benefit of having a lower PMI. A dry carbon piece this big surely worth more than $600 and we can't name a dry carbon part on the NSX that any vendor makes offer the added benefits of besides just saving weight and serious bling. Somebody please name one.
We will have buyers to agree to our Terms and Conditions as these are race parts with no refund. Greg is
#1 on the list and we know him. He will not be asked to agree to our Terms as he understands what he is getting into and our trust is earned. If our background does not give you a peace of mind, its best not buy this part. Besides, this part will not be shinny like DF or ProCar parts and your car is 05, you have the alum beam already. We believe this part works better on the early cars especially NA as its usually lighter and more stiff than later models. People who had removed the spare tires, ABS 1.0, Kinetic shorai battery can surely testify the difference. No numbers needed here.
Lets be clear on this. The price for the ARB 2.0 and this dry carbon bumper beam are the intro price to let a few to shake it down out of our "love" for the car and confidence in our parts. The price for the next batch will go up cuz there is a lot of added value of what we make but not everyone agrees. Back in the old days of Nissan, there was a unofficial rule of thumb from one guy who used to work for Lola told us of how to quantify the weight saving vs cost. It was " if it cost $1000 to save 2 lbs, that was justified"....that was for a real race car but it was not easy to come up with parts that does 3 things not just saving weight. IMO, FRP is no tech, Dry carbon is good tech, autoclaved is higher tech.
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If done right it should be pretty if not stronger than alluminum. M3s run these, and they are oem...
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Any options for front as well?? When would you need the deposit by?
anytime. Just reply here or PM me so I'll mark it down.
the easy way for us is to make an alum like the ProCar as we have one on the car but that has no provision for the washer bottle.
If, IF a few people want one, then we need to find an oem front bumper and make a mold so folks can still retain the oem wiper system....we don;t know why cuz the wiper motor is like 17lbs IIRC
. We have been using rainX since 08 but we do care so it all depends what folks want.
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.....shear tests of different densities of foam and I was even shocked as to what type of loads they can take on.
general comment: Anybody can ask technical questions but we don't like to discuss technical stuff on Prime as it often turns into a nasty pissing match then Lud or Bob 34 has to come in and do the Kung Fu Panda. the CF hardtop we bought for the Miata (who would spend $3K
for a top for an...anemic MIATA??
) we knew it was light but we were shocked how strong it was. We lost 25lbs of top end weight and lowered the CG by
We were able to make the car dance on the track being 2100lbs.:smile:
If you follow our receipt of mods, your car will be faster due to physics not higher tech or higher hp. especially if your driving skills improves to take advantage of a lighter car. Its quite simple actually. $600 bucks is not a whole lot of money for such a big NSX part($$/square inch is very low:tongue
as we all spent on mods that did jack. Its only money...either save longer or sell a few Tesla stock.
Our car only has 262 at the wheel but its high 2500 lbs. with another 100 lbs to remove. Its plenty fast and got into many trouble with the CHP but it gets 30mph on Calif petro but 33mpg on TX petro. If we want AC, we'll take the other car to cross TX or choose a cooler season to drive.
