This is gift for 2014.(or something like that)?
No they start in 2013 season.
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The Official 2011 F1 Thread....Now That 2010 is Over
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Somebody at vtec.net suggested the F1 engine will be based on the RC213V, a 1000cc V4 MotoGP engine now going through testing for the 2012 season.
Some links:
http://bestmotorcycling.com/2012-honda-rc213v-final-version/
http://bikermagz.com/news/honda-rc213v
Some links:
http://bestmotorcycling.com/2012-honda-rc213v-final-version/
http://bikermagz.com/news/honda-rc213v
Ayrton Senna was talking to the Honda engineer Osamu Goto in the photo in the previous post. Notice the name written on his radio.
Osamu Goto joined Ferrari in 1993.
Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996.
Osamu Goto left Ferrari in 1997.
Michael Schumacher wins WDC driving a Ferrari in 2000.
Quoting http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-gotosa.html
Name: Osamu Goto
Nationality: Japan
A student of mechanical engineering at Tokyo's Metropolitan College of Aeronautical Engineering, Goto graduated in March 1970 and a month later joined the exclusive band of engineers in the research department of the Honda Motor Company. In the early years at Honda, Goto was a specialist in exhaust emissions, notably with the Honda Civic model destined for the United States market. By 1974 he had become leader of Honda's Exhaust Emissions development group.
He would remain in the mainstream of Honda for the next 10 years, moving on to work in a variety of engine development programs. In 1984 - as Honda was beginning to take a serious interest in Formula 1 - he was promoted Chief Engineer and joined the Honda racing team to develop the 1.5-liter turbo. A year later he became Racing Team leader.
Honda's relationship with Williams was reaching fruition and in 1986 Goto led the Honda engineering team to its first World Constructors' Championship victory in four-wheeled racing. It was the beginning of a remarkable run of success. In 1987 Williams-Honda again won the Constructors' title and Nelson Piquet became the first World Champion to use Honda engines. Between them, Piquet, team-mate Nigel Mansell and Lotus's Ayrton Senna gave Honda eleven wins. The success led to Goto being put in charge of all F1 engine development - notably the remarkable normally-aspirated Honda V10 engine.
At the end of 1987 Honda left Williams to start a new relationship with McLaren. It would be one of the most successful packages in racing history, combining the engineering brilliance of Honda and McLaren and the driving skills of Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost. The result was 44 victories in 74 races - Senna collecting 30 wins, Alain Prost 11 and Gerhard Berger three. McLaren-Honda won the Constructors' titles in 1988-89-90-91, giving Honda a run of five consecutive Constructors' Championships.
At the end of 1991 - McLaren's Ron Dennis decided that he wanted Goto at McLaren and he was recruited as Executive Engineer. What he actually did for the next two years with McLaren was never fully explained. McLaren's partnership with Honda ended at the end of 1992 and, after a year working with the Ford HB engine and dabbling with a Chrysler program, the old team began to break up: Senna signed to race for Williams-Renault and Goto went home to Japan to be a director of a company called Tokyo R&D. This role lasted only a month before Goto headed off to Italy to join Ferrari as its head of engine research and development. At the start of 1997 he was recruited to be head of the engine department of Sauber Petronas Engineering AG. Since the BMW takeover of Sauber he has established his own engineering consultancy.
Osamu Goto joined Ferrari in 1993.
Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari in 1996.
Osamu Goto left Ferrari in 1997.
Michael Schumacher wins WDC driving a Ferrari in 2000.
Quoting http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-gotosa.html
Name: Osamu Goto
Nationality: Japan
A student of mechanical engineering at Tokyo's Metropolitan College of Aeronautical Engineering, Goto graduated in March 1970 and a month later joined the exclusive band of engineers in the research department of the Honda Motor Company. In the early years at Honda, Goto was a specialist in exhaust emissions, notably with the Honda Civic model destined for the United States market. By 1974 he had become leader of Honda's Exhaust Emissions development group.
He would remain in the mainstream of Honda for the next 10 years, moving on to work in a variety of engine development programs. In 1984 - as Honda was beginning to take a serious interest in Formula 1 - he was promoted Chief Engineer and joined the Honda racing team to develop the 1.5-liter turbo. A year later he became Racing Team leader.
Honda's relationship with Williams was reaching fruition and in 1986 Goto led the Honda engineering team to its first World Constructors' Championship victory in four-wheeled racing. It was the beginning of a remarkable run of success. In 1987 Williams-Honda again won the Constructors' title and Nelson Piquet became the first World Champion to use Honda engines. Between them, Piquet, team-mate Nigel Mansell and Lotus's Ayrton Senna gave Honda eleven wins. The success led to Goto being put in charge of all F1 engine development - notably the remarkable normally-aspirated Honda V10 engine.
At the end of 1987 Honda left Williams to start a new relationship with McLaren. It would be one of the most successful packages in racing history, combining the engineering brilliance of Honda and McLaren and the driving skills of Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost. The result was 44 victories in 74 races - Senna collecting 30 wins, Alain Prost 11 and Gerhard Berger three. McLaren-Honda won the Constructors' titles in 1988-89-90-91, giving Honda a run of five consecutive Constructors' Championships.
At the end of 1991 - McLaren's Ron Dennis decided that he wanted Goto at McLaren and he was recruited as Executive Engineer. What he actually did for the next two years with McLaren was never fully explained. McLaren's partnership with Honda ended at the end of 1992 and, after a year working with the Ford HB engine and dabbling with a Chrysler program, the old team began to break up: Senna signed to race for Williams-Renault and Goto went home to Japan to be a director of a company called Tokyo R&D. This role lasted only a month before Goto headed off to Italy to join Ferrari as its head of engine research and development. At the start of 1997 he was recruited to be head of the engine department of Sauber Petronas Engineering AG. Since the BMW takeover of Sauber he has established his own engineering consultancy.
You're right, the turbo V6 starts in the 2014 year. I read that 2013 date elsewhere which must be out of date info or just plain wrong info.
2014 FORMULA ONE TECHNICAL REGULATIONS (pdf link)
2014 FORMULA ONE TECHNICAL REGULATIONS (pdf link)
ARTICLE 5 : POWER UNIT
5.1 Engine specification :
5.1.1 Only 4-stroke engines with reciprocating pistons are permitted.
5.1.2 Engine cubic capacity must not exceed 1600cc.
5.1.3 Crankshaft rotational speed must not exceed 15000rpm.
5.1.4 Fuel mass flow must not exceed 100kg/h.
5.1.5 Below 10500rpm the fuel mass flow must not exceed Q (kg/h) = 0.009 N(rpm)+ 5.
5.1.6 Pressure charging may only be effected by the use of a sole single stage compressor linked to a sole single stage exhaust turbine by a common shaft parallel to the engine crankshaft and within 25mm of the car centre line. An electrical motor generator (MGUH) may be directly coupled to the same shaft.
5.1.7 All engines must have six cylinders arranged in a 90° “V” configuration and the normal section of each cylinder must be circular.
5.1.8 Engines must have two inlet and two exhaust valves per cylinder. Only reciprocating poppet valves are permitted. The sealing interface between the moving valve component and the stationary engine component must be circular.
5.7 Variable geometry systems :
5.7.1 With the exception of devices needed for control of pressure charging systems, variable geometry exhaust systems are not permitted. No form of variable geometry turbine (VGT) or variable nozzle turbine (VNT) or any device to adjust the gas throat section at the inlet to the turbine wheel is permitted.
5.7.2 Variable valve timing and variable valve lift profile systems are not permitted.
5.1 Engine specification :
5.1.1 Only 4-stroke engines with reciprocating pistons are permitted.
5.1.2 Engine cubic capacity must not exceed 1600cc.
5.1.3 Crankshaft rotational speed must not exceed 15000rpm.
5.1.4 Fuel mass flow must not exceed 100kg/h.
5.1.5 Below 10500rpm the fuel mass flow must not exceed Q (kg/h) = 0.009 N(rpm)+ 5.
5.1.6 Pressure charging may only be effected by the use of a sole single stage compressor linked to a sole single stage exhaust turbine by a common shaft parallel to the engine crankshaft and within 25mm of the car centre line. An electrical motor generator (MGUH) may be directly coupled to the same shaft.
5.1.7 All engines must have six cylinders arranged in a 90° “V” configuration and the normal section of each cylinder must be circular.
5.1.8 Engines must have two inlet and two exhaust valves per cylinder. Only reciprocating poppet valves are permitted. The sealing interface between the moving valve component and the stationary engine component must be circular.
5.7 Variable geometry systems :
5.7.1 With the exception of devices needed for control of pressure charging systems, variable geometry exhaust systems are not permitted. No form of variable geometry turbine (VGT) or variable nozzle turbine (VNT) or any device to adjust the gas throat section at the inlet to the turbine wheel is permitted.
5.7.2 Variable valve timing and variable valve lift profile systems are not permitted.
So in other words, no VTEC.
Right, no VTEC. I really hoped that this next generation of engines will get more sophisticated, but that was not to be. Not even variable length intake trumpets. That's disappointing.
Go Alonso.
Re: Hoping for rain & chaos now...........
From the way they were talking about the difficulty of driving the Red cars, Fred's doing good to be in the 3rd row. The Red cars had better be dynamite next year. :wink:
That makes 2 of us.
From the way they were talking about the difficulty of driving the Red cars, Fred's doing good to be in the 3rd row. The Red cars had better be dynamite next year. :wink:
Gloating will begin on 11/27/2011
Can't wait for tomorrow's race. If rain does come, my boy Jenson will be the favorite.That makes 2 of us.
From the way they were talking about the difficulty of driving the Red cars, Fred's doing good to be in the 3rd row. The Red cars had better be dynamite next year. :wink:
Re: Yeah it'll be a cakewalk for JB.............
nah, Seb will pull one of these off rather, and instead of Lewis being right behind them, it will be Jenson. :big grin:
unless he decides to challenge Seb.
nah, Seb will pull one of these off rather, and instead of Lewis being right behind them, it will be Jenson. :big grin:
Mercifully the season is over. Only 3 months or so until next season.
Miner
Miner
Jenson Button takes 2nd in the WDC :biggrin:
And I take $20 from Ted!! Feels so good to be a winner!!!
We are minority here but dont worry next year is our year.
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Re: Where was the damn rain..........
The whole time I was busy sticking pins in a Macca transmillion. Didn't know it was Hamo's instead of Butts.
I've got a couple of checks to write. :redface: Oh well, made it interesting anyway.
The whole time I was busy sticking pins in a Macca transmillion. Didn't know it was Hamo's instead of Butts.
I've got a couple of checks to write. :redface: Oh well, made it interesting anyway.
Next year Ferrari will do worse than this year, primarily due to macro economic conditions in Italy.
Next year, Red Bull and McLaren will race neck to neck down to the last race. If that truly comes to pass, then both teams deserve our admiration.
Next year, Red Bull and McLaren will race neck to neck down to the last race. If that truly comes to pass, then both teams deserve our admiration.
well another year...I will miss my late night F1 fixes while the familly is sleeping.F1 is awsome on a 100 inch screen:smile: Sauber did pretty well. I'll be interrested to see how the Mclaren team works next year.Can anyone beat the RB team....I'll miss RB....I will always be a JB fan because of his love for Honda and Japan......
Re: Is Liquid still around?
I sent him a PM cause I owe him $20. No answer and his profile says he hasn't been on Prime for 2 months. Anyone know what's up and have an EM addy? Thanks.
I sent him a PM cause I owe him $20. No answer and his profile says he hasn't been on Prime for 2 months. Anyone know what's up and have an EM addy? Thanks.
count me among the minority
I always loved that guy's driving. He seems to always be there. Slow car, fast car, it doesn't matter, he's always there.
I just hope they give him a car worthy of his talent before his career ends
On that note.
Guys, everyone here please, could I hear your opinion on Vettel?
for me I loved how he started out. He was driving the wheels off that Toro Rosso back then. And his driving was sublime all around. Wet, dry, overtaking, leading, qualifying. Everything.
Last season (his first championship), his driving was abysmal for me. He seemed to be a one trick person, only able to qualify ahead and run for home and that's it.
This past season, it seems more or less the same.
If I were to rank current drivers it would be:
Speed
1- Vettel, Hamilton (tie for first place)
2- Alonso
3- Kubica
4- everybody else (a toss up)
Race craft (overtake, avoid collision, wet racing and all that)
1-Alonso
2-Kubica
3-Button
4-Kobayashi
5-Everybody else
Consistency
1- Alonso
2- Button
3- Kubica
4- everybody else (I know Vettel is consistent in qualifying and leading a race but that's about it. As for Hamilton he showed amazing consistency in his fist year in F1 and never ever repeated that again in any measure)
So over to you, what do you think of Vettel?
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