How is the entire purchasing process like? Is there room to negotiate/haggle on prices? I know DocL mentioned some prices, but when looking up the sub, I'm seeing the cheapest price to be about a grand more for new.
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Yes, definitely on my short list as well... which is updated. I didn't add it originally as I was leaning toward the Carrera, not the Grand....
Rolex- Submariner (Steel with black face)
TAG Heuer- Aquaracer
TAG Heuer- Carrera
Omega-Planet Ocean
Breitling- Superocean
Panerai- Luminor Marina
Baume & Mercier- Riviera
Breitling- Blackbird
Rolex- Explorer
TAG Heuer- Grand Carrera
When I would buy watches from my AD, they would automatically take 20-25% off the price.
I don't buy new anymore. I think watches have become a bit overpriced over the last few years. I buy used from sites like timezone.com and breitlingsource.com. Easily save 50%+ on watches that are pratically like new.
Here's a few of mine:
Actually thinking of selling this first one:
There is always haggle room when purchasing jewelry. Always.
Just like furniture, cars and firearms (and other stuff I'm sure) you never pay the price listed on the merchandise. I hate playing the game, but I'm also not going to pay more just because I don't like the game either.....
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I personally never understood the facination with the rolex submariner. It looks pretty boring and they all look the same.
Exactly! And at that cost, why not look at a pre-owned Audemars for style, re-sale and performance.
Exactly! And at that cost, why not look at a pre-owned Audemars for style, re-sale and performance.
Because your average person isn't going to know what an Audemars, Franck Muller, JLC, Parmigiani, Patek Phillipe, Ulysse Nardin, or Vacheron Constantin watch looks like. If they look at your watch, they probably wouldn't know it from a Fossil. For some people, when spending over $5K for a watch, they do want someone to notice and recognize their watch. As with any piece of jewelry, which is what luxury watches really are, there is an aspect of "showing off of wealth" and it's hard to do that when the average person does not know the value of your watch. However, a Rolex, being so recognizable, can instantly tell someone how much you spent; not much different than wearing diamonds or a name brand shirt. It really depends of if you want to play it cool and fly under the radar and wear a watch where only hard core enthusiasts have appreciation for, or you want to have broader appeal by wearing a more recognizable name brand.
Also, while not the most beautiful watch by far, it does have a very timeless look that will probably never go out of style. It's like a classic pair of jeans in a very standard wash, standard fit, standard cut. While fads come and go, and it will never be the most impressive, it will be the one thing in your closet that you can always keep as a good old standby.
I agree 100%.
I am a watch junkie as well and that's exactly how I feel about my Omega Seamaster Coaxial and Planet Ocean. I have purchased several replacement straps for the Planet Ocean so that I can change the "look" periodically from steel to rubber to leather depending on the occasion.
My father's Omega Railmaster Aquaterra also has a classic quality about it and perhaps one day I might buy one for myself... once my watch embargo is lifted by my wife.
As with the others I'm not a big fan of Rolexes and find that there are so many other companies out there from whom I'd rather purchase.
That being said I do own a Submariner "homage" from a much less expensive brand with an automatic movement that i wear as a "beater" when I'm doing yardwork or projects around the house.
My short list is getting shorter! I'm really leaning towards the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean. I keep on comparing side by side shots with my options, and I find this one the most beautiful.
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I absolutely love my Black Face Bulgari Asioma Chronograph in Rose Gold. They make 199 annually, with slight changes between years. They are so unique, my friends with Rolex and Panarai drool.
I don't like to have what everyone else has.:biggrin:
I only paid $14k for it. I think it looks much better than a Ulysse Nardin that I was looking at for $24k.
If that is too much, consider a Bulgari Bulgari in 41mm. I get alot of comments on that watch as well. It has a gold bezel, and 2 toned bracelet, gold/stainless. Very cool alternative as well.
I haven't seen a Chronograph made for the Assioma this year though.
Bulgari is very classic, and rather rare, depending on the watch you choose.
I don't like to have what everyone else has.:biggrin:
I only paid $14k for it. I think it looks much better than a Ulysse Nardin that I was looking at for $24k.
If that is too much, consider a Bulgari Bulgari in 41mm. I get alot of comments on that watch as well. It has a gold bezel, and 2 toned bracelet, gold/stainless. Very cool alternative as well.
I haven't seen a Chronograph made for the Assioma this year though.
Bulgari is very classic, and rather rare, depending on the watch you choose.
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When I would buy watches from my AD, they would automatically take 20-25% off the price.
I don't buy new anymore. I think watches have become a bit overpriced over the last few years. I buy used from sites like timezone.com and breitlingsource.com. Easily save 50%+ on watches that are pratically like new.
Here's a few of mine:
Actually thinking of selling this first one:
2 questions??
whats AD?
where can I purchase a Rolex Submariner at an acceptable price?
thanks in advance
Some watch "experts" believe that if left unwound for extended periods of time that the "oils" contained within the movements can harden/congeal.
I have looked into this exact dilemma as I have a mountain of automatic watches and only a handful of winders.
However, going through the owners manuals of several Swiss watches and movement manufacturers it would appear that this belief is not in the majority.
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I love the above mentioned watches, but I tend to veer away from the in-fashion names like the Breitlings, Panerais, and especially Rolexes. Get something not so predictable such as I.W.C.'s aquatimer or the Pilot's watch, a Constantin Vacheron, a Glaschutte (German), Pierre Kuntz in rose gold, or a Franc Muller or a Zenith. Check out Chong Hing jewelers and get an idea as to what they carry. Some high end pieces are of names you probably don't hear of too often. Get yourself a magazine on high-end watches and you'll see and learn what it's all about!
I have a tag carrera and 2 rolex datejusts. The tags more appealing, but if something breaks it costs an arm and a leg. One night I was taking my jacket off and it snagged one of the buttons on the crown and it broke off, and it cost me 600. To fix and then a month later the other button falls off, and I didn't recall it getting snagged on something, or dropped. I was pissed. Wasn't covered by the warranty. My first rolex was givin to me by my father and that watch is from 1969. I remember playing with it when I was a little kid and dropped it a few times, to this day that watch works great. It has never been serviced. It still to this day works without a glitch. I have a newer rolex 2tone datejust with white dial beautiful watch, with original box and certified back in 98, I believe its was made 87+ if anyones interested let me know, I don't need 2 watchs. Rolex is the way to go. Not only do u pay for the name but u pay for the quality.
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I'm not reading this entire thread, but I just recently decided on a Raymond Weil. Automatic movement, black face, simple, elegant, professional, and age appropriate.
http://www.raymond-weil.com/
Look at the series with bracelet style, not leather bands. The one I purchased was from the Freelancer collection.
Rolex IMO, has a 1980's dated look. I just don't care for them.
Example:
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"Well said!"
A bit OT, I guess I disagree a bit. I'm from a different camp. I don't buy anything to "show off my wealth." I buy stuff because I want it or like it. I don't give a rats arse what other people think about it. Heck, if I wanted to impress other people I would have bought a 430 or a Vanquish S instead of the NSX. However, neither one is what I wanted and most of the time I wish the NSX didn't get as much attention as it does.
Anyway, I'm just from a different school of thought, I'd rather people DIDN'T know how much money we spend than vice versa.
Back On Topic.
Just when I was ready to purchase a PO, I discover this version. I am reading rumors that the "liquidmetal" technology will be introduced into future versions of the PO. The regular PO is a good value IMO, however, this limited edition model is about 2x as much. If the rumors that future (non-limited PO's) will have the liquidmetal improvements, it makes sense to wait. Question is, when and if......
Couldn't agree more. There's one word for people who go out of their way to "show off their wealth", but I won't say it here.
The richest guy I know drives a used car (Honda), wears "regular" clothes and lives in a "regular" house (and wears a Casio that I gave him as a gift).
^ Glad you mentioned that, with water resistance the only major difference... I have to really think about if I truly need the 600. The seamaster looks just as good as the PO 600.....
That and about 30 years. I think a vintage watch shows much more class/character than something shiny/new.
Vintage Doxa:
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