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Covid Vaccine
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The wife and I got our J&J single shot last week. She got chills that night but that was about it. I got nothing.
had zero effects after first shot of Moderna last month....got my second shot of Moderna on Sunday....woke up Monday feeling cruddy and it lasted all day, woke up Tuesday feeling fine but still have sore arm.
Interesting that I had my yearly physical on that Monday and my blood pressure which is usually above 140 was a 102
Interesting that I had my yearly physical on that Monday and my blood pressure which is usually above 140 was a 102
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Sorry to hear about your sister. That is terrible news. Hope she recovers quickly.
I had 1st shot of Pfizer with minimal reaction. My 2nd jab is next week. Not looking forward to the reaction, but hopefully can move on afterwards....
My wife got her second shot on Friday, got very sleepy about 3 hours after. Rebounded a bit in the morning, but most of Saturday was alternating chills, sleep and some nausea. But today she is back to normal.
Got 2nd does of Moderna on Friday. A lot less arm soreness than the first shot even the next day. Only real symptom for me was a pretty bad headache most of the evening/night Friday. By Saturday it was gone. Pretty similar experience to dose 1.
The wife and I got our second Moderna shots on Saturday. The pain in the shoulder started within a couple of hours and was worse than the first shots. Pain was still about the same on Sunday. I did feel a little tired on and took a short nap but since I didn't sleep that well Saturday night I can't say for sure if it was from not sleeping well or from the shot. My wife had some chills on Sunday so she took her temp and was 100.1 and I checked mine and was 99.4. We both took Tylenol and mine was back to normal in few hours but my wife's wasn't back to normal till late Sunday night. Still a little pain in the shoulder today but other than that we both seem to be back to normal.
Here's the current data. At 66 I have no agenda here, but I think the data shows that unless you are old you're probably more likely to die from getting hit by a meteorite.
Data from here https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics
I added the population data from 2010, the newest available.
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Data from here https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics
I added the population data from 2010, the newest available.
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I know at least 2 people who were under ~40 who passed from it, but still don’t know anybody hit by a meteorite.
But you point is taken.
As of today we're over 589,000 deaths, and NYT estimates that the true count is 2-3x that number. That's a lot of meteorites...
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You could argue statistics till your blue in the face. You would all be wrong nothing put out today can be trusted regardless of your personal view point.
The important thing to remember is what you gave up in the name of fear, and the long term consequences to those decisions.
The important thing to remember is what you gave up in the name of fear, and the long term consequences to those decisions.
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This post is genius since it works both ways.
this didn't age well considering 99% of all deaths and 95% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated
so real data is not to be trusted, but Facebook conspiracy theories about the vaccine are???
tell that to all those who are dying right now because of their decisions to not get the shot
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Although the delta and other variants are becoming more prevalent the current greatest morbidity is amongst the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are testing positive but are less likely to need medical care. Thankfully the antibody cocktail and use of steroids is helping.
I'm concerned about the next few weeks. My sister who is vaccinated did test positive after doing her first makeup gig for a wedding party (she wore a mask but nobody in the party did...because makeup), ran into her GP who said our local hospital in a town of 10k is out of ICU/ER beds and is turning people away who would normally be admitted.
Instead they are giving them a bottle of oxygen and asking them to call first before coming back even if things are getting worse for them.
Instead they are giving them a bottle of oxygen and asking them to call first before coming back even if things are getting worse for them.
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Even corrected for population were still significantly higher than the other countries who have access to the vaccine and sadly behind others that dont.
COVID-19 Data Explorer - Our World in Data
And when you look at cases by population were high but not an outlier.
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But what explains our higher death rates...is a 10% difference in vaccinated population. Fully vax % drop by about 10% for most countries compared to first dose which is below:
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The data is all there for anyone to look through. And it's pretty clear.
Also as someone who travels to Mexico and other countries in Central America for work -everyone- there is wearing a mask. To go into any building (walmart, small shop, restaurant) you have to sanitize your hands and get your temp taken. I was just in Matamoros, MX two weeks ago and employees were wearing masks outside in a scrap yard. That's what the pandemic looks like in other places in the world when it -isn't- politicized. It's not that they aren't wearing masks because masks are something that X political party wants, they are all wearing masks because they don't want to die.
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But what explains our higher death rates...is a 10% difference in vaccinated population. Fully vax % drop by about 10% for most countries compared to first dose which is below:
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The data is all there for anyone to look through. And it's pretty clear.
Also as someone who travels to Mexico and other countries in Central America for work -everyone- there is wearing a mask. To go into any building (walmart, small shop, restaurant) you have to sanitize your hands and get your temp taken. I was just in Matamoros, MX two weeks ago and employees were wearing masks outside in a scrap yard. That's what the pandemic looks like in other places in the world when it -isn't- politicized. It's not that they aren't wearing masks because masks are something that X political party wants, they are all wearing masks because they don't want to die.
Thankfully that is pretty much the case here in Ontario, Canada. Western Canada has their own issues but I'm so thankful that wherever I go, even in my city of 1 million with 76% vaccine coverage and a daily infection rate running around only 20-50 cases a day (which they are calling a 4th wave) everyone is masked.
We are our own worst enemy here in the US. I believe we have reached the point where this current wave will have the bug run it’s course. Those who are vaccinated will be exposed and some will get sick and even pass away, and the same will happen to those who aren’t vaccinated (albeit at a much higher rate). The really vulnerable have either died or gotten the vaccine at this point. People will die needlessly, but we have reached that point in the states.
the delta wave is predominantly a pandemic of the unvaccinated.Yes many vaccinated folks will have mild symptoms..the relaxed restrictions put those not protected at greater risk.The folks who refuse the vaccine get sick but don't die seem to accept their fate because they distrust the vaccines so much.
