This is exactly why you and I can never see eye to eye.
Ok, so let's keep this really simple. Let's just stick with some simple facts that I would think we could at least agree on:
1) A 9 sec NSX is possible. I think we can both agree on that right?
2) By all calculations, one would assume that roughly 700 whp should be enough to achieve said 9 sec 1/4 mile. Again, in agreement correct?
3) To date, there has not been a 9 sec run done on an NSX to anyone's collective knowledge here on Prime? I don't think anyone has found a record of it to my knowledge. Again, nothing controversial right?
So with these facts, that I assume we can agree with, what is your theory as to why a 9 second pass has not been done? Multiple people have built a 650-700 whp NSX (I can think of dozen off the top of my head, I know of dozens more that I've heard of and even dozens more on top that I haven't heard of). Also there are many good drivers who know what they are doing on the 1/4 mile (some even within this tread). So by all rationale, a 9 sec pass should have been done by now. How can it be explained that it hasn't?
As I mentioned before, I had the same thought process as many of you in the beginning. While I wasn't specifically trying to build a 9 sec car, I didn't think it should be as hard because I did the same theoretical math in my head as well. Along the process, I (and others) found that it was harder than expected. I'm the first to admit, I don't know why. However, the fact are the facts, it still hasn't been done yet. I'm not saying that it can't be done. I'm doing the best I can to theorize and explain
why to date it hasn't been done derived from what I've personally experienced, what I've seen, and what I've heard. And again, it's just a theory, and as a theory, I'm sure parts are wrong. However, based on the fact it still hasn't been done, I'm there has got to be some merit to what I'm saying.
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Bozo, I agree, this is definitely not a myth you are losing control because its like driving around with skateboard wheels(radials) in front, and balloons(bias plies) in the back, they bounce at different rates, and lead to swaying. This is a common occurrence with bias/radial RWD mix, and I've experienced it first hand....very scary. I hope he can get it straightened out and run even faster times. Once we put bias plies on the S2000 she straightened right out even with 20+ more mph in the back half.
Perhaps because the NSX is a mid-engine car is creating more of an issue of instability. Just like the mid-engine design is more prone to snap spin because the center of mass is so close to the rotational axis, I would theorize that the mid-engine design would create a snap-bounce scenario that you are not going to see in a front engine design. That could be one possible explanation why the NSX might be unique in it's difficulty on the 1/4 mile.
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You only respect old timers in here Vegas
Not true at all. I have no respect for docjohn and he's the oldest timer there is!
.I've ejaculated in my nsx in 9.3 seconds....does that count.
I just couldn't dare respect a guy with a two tone NSX. :wink: