Î do remember that thread from the past, but I also remember the price being much higher, like 900 or something if memory serves me right.
Also I would like to note that in 1997 the rear beam was changed to aluminum from steel, so I think the weight savings for those cars is closer to 12 pounds. Still not a bad savings considering the location.
I hope I did not upset you by my questions, I think it's important to know this stuff. I am seriously considering this part, but my car is newer than a 2001. So what if I buy one and it does not fit? Do I own it? Do you have any more pictures of the foam inside? I am wondering about the density of that foam.
Senor David,
of course we/I am not upset. We are racers or racers "wanna-be" not ricers your questions are perfect for others to read and have an idea what P2F is up to and the way we conduct our business. When we said "its a race part" "no refund" "its not for everybody" "price does not equal to value" etc. Our parts has meaning but that does not mean it won't break. i.e, you buy your next car from BAC MONO or Radical RXC so you are the king of the hill at your local C&C, you crash the car showing off and many things broke, well, time to pony up more money to fix it.
We don't and will never make rice parts so the market is even smaller but that is totally ok as we have other gigs/plans going on. Living in Calif., you can't depend on one source of income but the surf/beach/club drive is too good to move else where. Its summer time, the swell is small and the beach is packed with Zonies, so we have more time to reply but not during winter swells.
Dali is gone, we all have mix feelings about that. Dali had many low cost parts and we want to take that even further to make parts that does at least 3 things not just the low price. ARB 1.0 to ARB 2.0 is a perfect example. Looking back, we should've started this biz a long time ago to kick his butt but oh well....we came out the closet, we are here now and proud.
The $900 bumper was the 1st article so took more time to get it right etc thus the cost. No FEA was performed but we understand the process and it was the best we can do. Dry carbon at $600 is really "cheap" or shall we say "a great value" AND the part is not bling. How many CF parts for the NSX can do that? It won't look as good as DF or Pro Car parts but it will be 100% functional and out of sight.
Do the math and figure out the PMI and you'll know. Or, better, track a car without bumpers and feel it for yourself. If you are safety minded, this part is not for you. (FYI, Lotus Elise/Exige has no bumpers and their body is FRP) The first batch of 5 is for people who willing and trust our experience to try the bumper. The next 5....the price will be JDM price.
This part benefits your car ALL THE TIME unlike some other mods that turn into static downforce when not in use.
>So what if I buy one and it does not fit? Do I own it? Do you have any more pictures of the foam inside? I am wondering about the >density of that foam.
According to NSXGOD, bumpers from all years are all interchangeable. It probably is. We just don't know for sure. You can ask on Prime people like Shawn, Brian, Larry etc. to be sure. We are 99% sure it will fit but our policy is NO RETURN so you own the part. We'll take a picture of the foam when we make the next batch. Its the same as the ProCar frt bumper foam all boxed inside the alum extrusion. Not much to see and not sexy. If you worry too much, this part is not for you. The majority of our background is in design and we try not to make parts that breaks for the public use. If it doesn't break, its probably too heavy or over designed.
