What would you do if your wife did this???

[NSXGMS]

Clearly this was caused by alcohol. While people are responsible for what they do while on alcohol that's not who they really are.

If this was my wife and this was an isolated incident (as far as I knew) I would request that substantial drinking stop immediately. If the drinking persisted, I would request that treatment be sought since continuing to use drugs in the face of consequences constitutes a drug problem. If treatment was not embraced and pursued immediately we would have a serious problem and bags would be packed.

 

[H-carWizKid]

let's just take a moment to thank god that ricky the security guard was there to save the day. His quick thinking to summon backup and wait outside the bathroom really shows his training paid off.

lol

 

[lrsudog]

"Caused by alcohol"?

Alcohol removes inhibitions. In other words, when you are drinking, you are your true, uninhibited self.

In Vino Veritas.

 

[yojack1]

Let's just take a moment to thank god that Ricky the security guard was there to save the day. His quick thinking to summon backup and wait outside the bathroom really shows his training paid off.

Ya but I bet Ricky was dieing to get back in and throw a flag for illegal procedure!:wink:

 

[H-carWizKid]

"Caused by alcohol"?

Alcohol removes inhibitions. In other words, when you are drinking, you are your true, uninhibited self.

In Vino Veritas.

Interesting. It appears you have come to an incorrect conclusion while using basically correct information.

Yes alcohol removes inhibition- but that does not mean that "while drinking you are your true uninhibited self" any more than a strange dream you had while sleeping is indicative of your "true uninhibited self". In fact what you are experiencing is the loss of your higher brain functions- you know the definition of "impairment"?

The Statement- "In Vino Veritas" while poetic, is over simplistic if you look at it from a medical perspective of what is physically happening to the body / brain of a person during consumption of alcohol. A person is not being stimulated to become more honest, friendly, outgoing ect- instead they are stripping themselves of the logic functions that prevent us from saying or doing inapproriate things. We become more outgoing because we could care less what others think of us. Hence a wallflower becomes the life of the party- or a raving asshole whichever the circumstance dictates.

Alcohol is a depressant folks- As consumption increases your ability to function decreases.

A housewife becomes a whore? Not so far fetched. My experience with folks who are drinking heavily only reinforces the theory.

What some peoples daughters will do in public if they have had too much to drink... I could fill a 200 pages with stories.

I was a bartender for a number of years and have seen lots of smart people go downhill at a frightening pace then do incredibly stupid shit while under the influence- the idea that this was their "true self" is pretty novel, but it just isn't true. The personality is defined by decision making and judgement, so to say that someone's true self is indicated by what is left after judgement is impaired strikes me as obtuse.

P

 

[NSXGMS]

"Caused by alcohol"?

Alcohol removes inhibitions. In other words, when you are drinking, you are your true, uninhibited self.

In Vino Veritas.

That's nonsense.

Alcohol impairs judgment and brain function. An impaired brain is not a "true self." It is not functioning as it does without the drug so in no way could that be considered that individual's "true self". "True" and "uninhibited" are not mutually exclusive.

I may have an urge to blow $200K cash on a Ferrari but that would be a foolish thing to do. If I were drunk I may think it was a good idea and go down to the dealership and do it. But you cannot say that my "true self" made that purchase since my true self is not my uninhibited self. Lowering of an inhibition does not make what one does the act of a "true" self. Again, you cannot separate "true self" from "inhibition." The inhibitions are part of you're non-impaired true self.

Also, for your hypothesis to hold water it would require that every person would act in a consistent manner during every drinking experience (when drinking to an identical level of intoxication) which is obviously untrue.

 

[nsxlover]

I would kick that bitch to the curb. You only get one chance with me.

 

[H-carWizKid]

I would kick that bitch to the curb. You only get one chance with me.

Sure, but then what do you do with the 3 kids? Kick them to the curb as well? I am sure they will come out just fine knowing their Dad didn't stand for any of their mothers drunken stupidity.

We aren't talking about some floozy the guy was dating, this is his wife, and the mother of his children. I am thinking it takes more of a man to stand by his family and try to work a way through this.

P

 

[NSXLVR]

Sorry, but she'd get the boot. I dont believe in staying together for the children, it's never made anyone's life better. The husband better be glad that security guard came in and cockblocked like he did, or that marine may have shot up some of his kids in her. Having that replay in the mind, will destroy a relationship

 

[john@johnhudakracing]

I just don't know how you could ever really move-on, and advance your relationship after an incident like that.

Ok, you are in a mini-van, on a road trip to Sea World, with your three kids:

W: "Could you pull over. I'm just going to run into McDonald's really quick to use the restroom".

M: "Like hell you will!!!"

 

[H-carWizKid]

I just don't know how you could ever really move-on, and advance your relationship after an incident like that.

Ok, you are in a mini-van, on a road trip to Sea World, with your three kids:

W: "Could you pull over. I'm just going to run into McDonald's really quick to use the restroom".

M: "Like hell you will!!!"

LoL

 

[queenlives]

I just don't know how you could ever really move-on, and advance your relationship after an incident like that.

Ok, you are in a mini-van, on a road trip to Sea World, with your three kids:

W: "Could you pull over. I'm just going to run into McDonald's really quick to use the restroom".

M: "Like hell you will!!!"

"would you like fries with that?"

 

[steveny]

CAn you imagine if they put it up on the big screen and everyone was looking at the husband pointing and laughing. :biggrin:

 

[yojack1]

"would you like fries with that?"

How about Big Mac?

 

[nsxlover]

Sure, but then what do you do with the 3 kids? Kick them to the curb as well? I am sure they will come out just fine knowing their Dad didn't stand for any of their mothers drunken stupidity.

We aren't talking about some floozy the guy was dating, this is his wife, and the mother of his children. I am thinking it takes more of a man to stand by his family and try to work a way through this.

P

This is not the kind of woman I would want around my kids anyway. What kind of example is she setting for her children. Drunk or not, you should be in control of what you are doing.

 

[steveny]

This is not the kind of woman I would want around my kids anyway. What kind of example is she setting for her children. Drunk or not, you should be in control of what you are doing.

Yep, this is a great oppurtunity for the husband to get rid of the bit-h and keep the kids thus not pay child support as well. Any judge is going to award custody to the father at this point. If the husband waits and/if problems come up later the husbands case will not be as strong as it is now. Strike while the iron is hot!

 

[NSX-Stalker]

What if she had gotten away with it?

H: wow, you were gone a long time.
W: yaa.. lotta peepshels there.
H: what's wrong with your face?
W: dunno.. guesh I'm peelin

 

[lrsudog]

Also, for your hypothesis to hold water it would require that every person would act in a consistent manner during every drinking experience (when drinking to an identical level of intoxication) which is obviously untrue.

That's and absurd and demonstrably false "obviously".

Individuals generally do behave consistently while under the influence given similar circumstances and stimuli. There is a reason that the phrase "asshole drunk" was coined.

It has been my experience that a given set of behaviors can be expected from individuals while they are under the influence. While exactly the same actions may or may not be repeated, the same can be said for people not under the influence.

In the context of this woman's behavior, she drank a sufficient amount of alcohol to mitigate inhibitions and judgment that would normally be present when sober. By definition, the behavior she exhibited was a result of her uninhibited desires.

I really doubt any would defend her had she instead shot someone in anger, nor do I think anyone would claim that in such a case her anger was "caused by alcohol".

 

[lrsudog]

I was a bartender for a number of years and have seen lots of smart people go downhill at a frightening pace then do incredibly stupid shit while under the influence- the idea that this was their "true self" is pretty novel, but it just isn't true. The personality is defined by decision making and judgement, so to say that someone's true self is indicated by what is left after judgement is impaired strikes me as obtuse.

P

I also was a bartender for a number of years, and if you were one as well, then you cannot tell me with any honesty that you did not know how your regulars would behave when under the influence.

People are who they are. They respond to stimuli in generally consistent ways in a given mental condition. If they are not themselves when they are drunk A-holes, then exactly who are they?

 

[H-carWizKid]

I also was a bartender for a number of years, and if you were one as well, then you cannot tell me with any honesty that you did not know how your regulars would behave when under the influence.

People are who they are. They respond to stimuli in generally consistent ways in a given mental condition. If they are not themselves when they are drunk A-holes, then exactly who are they?

It was never my regulars I had to worry about- it was the amatures. If you were a bartender than you know what I am talking about. You know, like a woman who doesn't drink very often, but came out one night with the girls- ended up on a bender and finished the night being scraped off the bathroom floor by the bouncers. The shy receptionist that drank too many mai-tais and started dancing like a stripper at the company Christmas party, The nurse that forgot to eat something before she joined her colleagues at the bar after work and got so drunk on 2 appletini's that she had to be escorted out of the bar and driven home because she was embarrassing herself, the pharmaceutical rep that went out on the town for a batchlorette party and ended up blowing the limo driver... I could go on and on. the shit happens my friend. The 38 yr old mother of 3 that drank more wine than she should have, blacks out and screws a stranger in the restroom falls into that catagory IMO.

The people I drink (drank) with would NEVER end up in this situation- we were "professionals" and we knew exactly where our limits were. Lots of people out there have no clue how much they can really drink before they lose it- the party is fun, the friends are close, the conversation is good, the wine is flowing- It's a time bomb. You leave to go to wherever and before you know it all those drinks have caught up to you and you are hammered in an inappropriate setting.

I can't say for sure that this is what happened, but it sure sounds like a story I have heard before.

P

 

[steveny]

What if she had gotten away with it?

If he doesn't dump her ass she did get away with it.

 

[lrsudog]

It was never my regulars I had to worry about- it was the amatures. If you were a bartender than you know what I am talking about. You know, like a woman who doesn't drink very often, but came out one night with the girls- ended up on a bender and finished the night being scraped off the bathroom floor by the bouncers. The shy receptionist that drank too many mai-tais and started dancing like a stripper at the company Christmas party, The nurse that forgot to eat something before she joined her colleagues at the bar after work and got so drunk on 2 appletini's that she had to be escorted out of the bar and driven home because she was embarrassing herself, the pharmaceutical rep that went out on the town for a batchlorette party and ended up blowing the limo driver... I could go on and on. the shit happens my friend. The 38 yr old mother of 3 that drank more wine than she should have, blacks out and screws a stranger in the restroom falls into that catagory IMO.

The people I drink (drank) with would NEVER end up in this situation- we were "professionals" and we knew exactly where our limits were. Lots of people out there have no clue how much they can really drink before they lose it- the party is fun, the friends are close, the conversation is good, the wine is flowing- It's a time bomb. You leave to go to wherever and before you know it all those drinks have caught up to you and you are hammered in an inappropriate setting.

I can't say for sure that this is what happened, but it sure sounds like a story I have heard before.

P

I agree with everything you just said, but I bet you a night of tips that if this lady was a regular drinker, served to the level that she was at the game, she would also be regularly found forgetting about Mister Right and hooking up with Mister Right Now.

Alcohol isn't the beast. It just lets the beast out.

 

[H-carWizKid]

I agree with everything you just said, but I bet you a night of tips that if this lady was a regular drinker, served to the level that she was at the game, she would also be regularly found forgetting about Mister Right and hooking up with Mister Right Now.

Alcohol isn't the beast. It just lets the beast out.

I suppose you're right in some regard, but I have to defer to Osiris_x11's post from page 1

There are too many unknown variables to justify passing judgement

On a serious note, we/us/you/me/I from afar can't & shouldn't comment on the situation in terms of passin' judgment w/o knowing the in's & out's of the actual situation & perhaps even the dynamics of her social/personal life. Kinda/sorta live & let live, I guess. But, it's rather difficult to do such in the very sensationalist & voyeuristic tabloid-culture of a society that we now have become & are hard-pressed to continue living in w/o any choice otherwise. . .

 

[lrsudog]

I suppose you're right in some regard, but I have to defer to Osiris_x11's post from page 1

There are too many unknown variables to justify passing judgement

I will agree to disagree. The OP question was "What would you do...?"

I'd see it as a demonstration of her unfettered desires and kick her to the curb.

We all have inner desires that we repress, but one of the deal breakers is my SO wanting to have actual sex with indiscriminate strangers. Fantasizing is understandable, but actually doing it; not so much.

Similarly, occasionally I fantasize about driving to Vegas at 180 mph, but I could not drink enough to actually get me to act it out. Indeed, there any number of anti-social or destructive acts that people would "like" to do but never would, even under a very deep influence of alcohol.

 

[pvmike]

"I didn't realize that drinking would turn me into a whore."

That's a sorry excuse that a few guys in here are swallowing whole. How would this excuse work if, in her drunken stupor, she were to drive a car or get in a fight?

You guys are idiots. But don't be mad at me for saying it - I'm drunk.