+1. We don't need to get fanatical. I drove my NSX in a couple of heavy storms, car handled very well, albeit, with good tires and tread.
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+1. We don't need to get fanatical. I drove my NSX in a couple of heavy storms, car handled very well, albeit, with good tires and tread.
It could happen to any vehicle, however it is much easier to regain the control in a FWD or 4WD. I live in a city that rains 7+ months per year, and I've drove RWDs for 10 years. I change my rear tires almost more frequently than my front ones, and it's usually the opposite for most people. It's almost common sense, but a lot of people don't know this: the rear tires do more control for you in the water, and if you can only afford two new tires replace the rear ones.
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Bat, first of all, I'm glad you are OK!
That's a dangerous sentence! I *highly* disagree. Putting new tires in front only makes the car more tail-happy. A majority of people on the road will know what to do when a car understeers (it's instinct!), but most will not know what to do when the car oversteers.
In fact, tire manufacturers (and installers) recommend that you put new tires in the rear.
--Conrad
That's a dangerous sentence! I *highly* disagree. Putting new tires in front only makes the car more tail-happy. A majority of people on the road will know what to do when a car understeers (it's instinct!), but most will not know what to do when the car oversteers.
In fact, tire manufacturers (and installers) recommend that you put new tires in the rear.
--Conrad
Sorry to hear about your accident, and I hope the insurance company will do you right.
I have to add my two cents here. Tim, you always post thoughtful cogent answers to questions here on Prime, but I have to say that you are off base here. You need to get more seat time in the NSX before you can make a judgment like that. The NSX handles perfectly well in wet conditions, given good tires and safe driving. I have driven my car very often in the rain and once even in snow, and the car was not ill-handling or even unpredictable. To the contrary, the NSX is quite stable and comfortable in wet conditions.
One of my rain experiences was at Buttonwillow raceway in a downpour that scared everyone else away from the track except me and the track steward. I got the learn all about my car at speeds approaching 115 mph in extremely wet conditions. The NSX was composed and solid at high speeds, braking and cornering.
Please, get more wet driving experience before making judgments like that.
I have to add my two cents here. Tim, you always post thoughtful cogent answers to questions here on Prime, but I have to say that you are off base here. You need to get more seat time in the NSX before you can make a judgment like that. The NSX handles perfectly well in wet conditions, given good tires and safe driving. I have driven my car very often in the rain and once even in snow, and the car was not ill-handling or even unpredictable. To the contrary, the NSX is quite stable and comfortable in wet conditions.
One of my rain experiences was at Buttonwillow raceway in a downpour that scared everyone else away from the track except me and the track steward. I got the learn all about my car at speeds approaching 115 mph in extremely wet conditions. The NSX was composed and solid at high speeds, braking and cornering.
Please, get more wet driving experience before making judgments like that.
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Tires didn't have much tread on them. I only have myself to blame that I drove it in the rain that day. I've driven it in the rain before, but it was one drive too many 
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I'm aware that lbbp is very hard to duplicate. It was an issue with my last nsx when I had the bodykit installed. We'll just have to wait n see.
Again, ill post updates on the cars progress in this thread.
Bat
. I'm aware that lbbp is very hard to duplicate. It was an issue with my last nsx when I had the bodykit installed. We'll just have to wait n see.
Again, ill post updates on the cars progress in this thread.
Bat
Tires didn't have much tread on them. I only have myself to blame that I drove it in the rain that day. I've driven it in the rain before, but it was one drive too many
I'm aware that lbbp is very hard to duplicate. It was an issue with my last nsx when I had the bodykit installed. We'll just have to wait n see.
Again, ill post updates on the cars progress in this thread.
Bat
LBBP is not hard to duplicate per se, its just hard to match. Since you're essentially starting fresh, this shouldn't be an issue for you. Just have the bodyshop blend panels as needed. GL!
You're right. Thanks for catching it. I was daydreaming in the staff meeting while typing this, and it should be: "But a lot of people don't know this: the rear tires do more control for you in the water, and if you can only afford two new tires replace the rear." I'll go back and edit it.
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Yes, what I should have said was matching the paint. In the repair order it specified blending the paint.
Bat
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Really, sorry to hear. Glad you're okay though.
Unfortunate of any NSX, let alone an LBBP, in this state.
If it helps may want to give a call to BELL Automotive. I think they are located in Huntington Beach now. They do mostly Ferrari, Lambo, etc. I was there two years ago and saw 2 NSX's being worked on. I had a diamond white pearl honda at the time that was rear ended and being evaluated for repair, and the manager mentioned the difficulty of matching Honda pearls. They had just finished work on a Spa Yellow with a new front clip and imo the paint match was spot on. Maybe speak to their painter??
Just trying to help...
Best of luck and keep us updated.
Unfortunate of any NSX, let alone an LBBP, in this state.
If it helps may want to give a call to BELL Automotive. I think they are located in Huntington Beach now. They do mostly Ferrari, Lambo, etc. I was there two years ago and saw 2 NSX's being worked on. I had a diamond white pearl honda at the time that was rear ended and being evaluated for repair, and the manager mentioned the difficulty of matching Honda pearls. They had just finished work on a Spa Yellow with a new front clip and imo the paint match was spot on. Maybe speak to their painter??
Just trying to help...
Best of luck and keep us updated.
28k and not a total loss, wow. hope your back soon.
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Thanks for the good words guys and gals. Bottom line is I'm still alive. Now, that I'm alive, I wonder how long its gonna be before I get her back.
Bat™
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Thanks for the good words guys and gals. Bottom line is I'm still alive. Now, that I'm alive, I wonder how long its gonna be before I get her back
Bat™
Best of luck with everything Bat!!
All that matters is exactly that... that you're ok! The car is repairable and they are also repairable, people are not. Hope to see the progress and repairs, I'm sure it will be back to 100% in no time.
aww man. didn't you just bought this nsx? gluck.
Bat, are you from San Diego? Any ideas on where are you planning on getting it repaired? If you need help with something, let me know. Your baby will be back on the road soon.
p.s. which way were you headed on the 15? north or south? I used to drive the 15 every going to San Marcos State University.
p.s. which way were you headed on the 15? north or south? I used to drive the 15 every going to San Marcos State University.
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Hey steve, you by any chance live in Mira Mesa? There's a black one that lives in my area. Anywhoo, I had just gotten on the 15 freeway heading north from mercy rd, poway rd was the next exit I was gonna take but I didn't make it. Its about 1/4-1/2 mile between the two, so that really sucks.
My car is at Penske's collision repair on Balboa ave. 85,000 sq foot facility. They do a lot of high end cars. I did some research on them, and so I felt comfortable letting them take care of my car.
Bat
My car is at Penske's collision repair on Balboa ave. 85,000 sq foot facility. They do a lot of high end cars. I did some research on them, and so I felt comfortable letting them take care of my car.
Bat
I am glad you are OK. Very sorry for your accident.
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Steve
Glad you're doing fine, and you seem to be taking the whole incident well.
I'm sure you'll make the most of the situation, and your car will come back WAY better than ever.
I'm sure you'll make the most of the situation, and your car will come back WAY better than ever.
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Glad to hear you're safe, Bat.
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I toured the Penske facility where my car is. I'm quite impressed with their operation. 85,000 square feet. There was another 02-05 nsx there, another one on its way, plus they just completed repairs on yet another. They told me they've never seen so many nsx's at one time. They are doing a complete evaluation on the car right now, and will let me know later this week on total costs and approximate timeline for completion. I took pics and will post them up soon.
Bat™
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I don't think the issues is the safety of the NSX in the rain per se, so much as an NSX has relatively wide tires, which makes it more difficult for the tread to sipe out the water. And if the tread is worn, the situation gets even worse. Any car with wide / worn tires is going to be more problematic in the rain.
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Thanks Phil.
Guys, my Bilstein shocks and h&r spacers are here. Should I have the collision center install those for me?
Bat
Guys, my Bilstein shocks and h&r spacers are here. Should I have the collision center install those for me?
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