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The STMPO Messiah Exhaust

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Gotta love it! LoL

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Ross, sounds amazing! can't wait to get mine installed (i know it will sound just as good with the shelter and mufflers) THAT THING IS LOOOOOOUD even in the video i am completely sold on the mufflers and shelter lol in CA that would be ticket city. sounds like sex though:biggrin:
 
Ross, sounds amazing! can't wait to get mine installed (i know it will sound just as good with the shelter and mufflers) THAT THING IS LOOOOOOUD even in the video i am completely sold on the mufflers and shelter lol in CA that would be ticket city. sounds like sex though:biggrin:

Are u going to ceramic coat it?
 
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Are u going to ceramic coat it?

I hope no one ceramic coats The Messiah...

we actually spend the time to backperge the exhaust for a perfect weld inside and out... that is how color in stainless welding is created...

Here are examples show on our y-pipe

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We actually like to brag about our welding talant's...

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Ross,

Being Jewish I can tell you that even though I like your exhaust, it an't the Messiah.... he hasn't come yet. :biggrin: :cool:

And when he does... he's going to be rock'n this.... the Yum Kipper Clipper ( Israel Aircraft Industries' Astra Galaxy aka Gulfstream G200 ) .
Notice the long, hooked nose. :)


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Ross,

Being Jewish I can tell you that even though I like your exhaust, it an't the Messiah.... he hasn't come yet. :biggrin: :cool:

And when he does... he's going to be rock'n this.... the Yum Kipper Clipper ( Israel Aircraft Industries' Astra Galaxy aka Gulfstream G200 ) .
Notice the long, hooked nose. :)


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I was always a fan of the G5....lol... popular in rap video's...

Maybe a Hanukkah candle would be best for the use of your Messiah while your car is in storage over the winter.... :)

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There are simularities between the two...
 

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Ross,

Being Jewish I can tell you that even though I like your exhaust, it an't the Messiah.... he hasn't come yet. :biggrin: :cool:

And when he does... he's going to be rock'n this.... the Yum Kipper Clipper ( Israel Aircraft Industries' Astra Galaxy aka Gulfstream G200 ) .
Notice the long, hooked nose. :)


<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/G200.jpg" width=600>

This jet has no foreskin......
 
I was always a fan of the G5....lol... popular in rap video's...

Maybe a Hanukkah candle would be best for the use of your Messiah while your car is in storage over the winter.... :)

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There are simularities between the two...

I think it was the G6, not the G5. the song did give the Pontiac guys some hope.

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I wonder if the guys with the after market diffusers might want a Hanukkah catback. The C5/C6 vettes looks like it's headed in that direction
 
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The last pic is still with the 3in with 45cut. In case I got pulled over I wanted the 4in so I could try to convince the officer it was stock? :redface:

There is no doubt the exhaust it loud... but it sure is the right kind of loud! I will do a full write up later but for now lets just say I love it!
 
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The last pic is still with the 3in with 45cut. In case I got pulled over I wanted the 4in so I could try to convince the officer it was stock? :redface:

There is no doubt the exhaust it loud... but it sure is the right kind of loud! I will do a full right up later but for now lets just say I love it!

The exhaust does sound good and loud.

Perhaps Ross can use a quieter muffler like the Magnaflow straight through and run a electric cut out valve for the "loud-mode" using the NSX JDM switches for a sleeper/stock look.

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^^^ to each their own I guess. I actually bought one, knew what I was getting and am happy with what I got. :biggrin:
 
Thanks for the review Ryan...

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1345220#post1345220

We have 3 more in production based on the deposits made...

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We will have pics and clips of the burns upgrade, cat shelter, and comparisson's of the 3" to 4" tips. We are also building one for the Lovefab Long Tube headers... if there is interest... we can jig the set-up as well.

Thanks to everyone for their interest.


Regards
 
......thank you for allowing the topic at hand to continue.......

Ross, he's actually helping you more than hurting you.

I've spoken to a number of "hardcore" NSX guys and a few are following your threads and all agree that thanks to people bumping it up they are now aware of a HIGH end custom fabricator.

These people could care less about politics since they are more interested in engineering feats and workmanship, which you have demonstrated.

People shouldn't focus on politics and drive away vendors like urself.

I haven't bought from you yet (need to focus on the SOS blower first), but if and when the time comes I like to know that ur products will still be around for those ( like myself) that need and want engineered and workmanship in one sentence.
 
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I see history sorta repeating itself here.

STMPO = Lamborghini
*insert that other previous vendor here* = Ferrari

".....About this time Lamborghini started to get interested in developing a high performance car. He had owned Oscas, Maseratis and Ferraris but was always disappointed with them. Particularly their engines. There is a now famous story about how he was frustrated with problems he had with a clutch in a Ferrari (a Ferrari 250 GT), and went to visit Enzo Ferrari who's factory was nearby. Enzo had no time for a tractor manufacture and simply dismissed him. Lamborghini decided there was nothing Ferrari was doing he could not do better. He decided too build his own car with a V12 engine. For the design he found a very talented engineer named Giampaolo Dallara who had previously worked on a Ferrari V12 engine..... "

http://www.lamboweb.com/History.htm

So with a few members' "reasoning" they will NEVER buy from Lamborghini/STMPO due to the Italian hot-blood-passion..... right......

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Ross, he's actually helping you more than hurting you.

I've spoken to a number of "hardcore" NSX guys and a few are following your threads and all agree that thanks to people bumping it up they are now aware of a HIGH end custom fabricator.

These people could care less about politics since they are more interested in engineering feats and workmanship, which you have demonstrated.

People shouldn't focus on politics and drive away vendors like urself.

I haven't bought from you yet (need to focus on the SOS blower first), but if and when the time comes I like to know that ur products will still be around for those ( like myself) that need and want engineered and workmanship in one sentence.



Thats pretty cool... here's pics of last nights fabrication....


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FWIW - We found that the Taitec GTLW is indeed made in China... and it made with 404 stainless steel... aka as a unique alloy.

404 stainless was engineered in China as a light and cheap replacement to 304 SS.. and a magnet doesn’t stick to it. The price of steel as a exported textile into China also increased substantially for a decade leading up the 2008 Olympics held in Beijing… where China built brand new stadiums’ for the event and bought so much steel globally … it drove up the prices worldwide.

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Most importantly …. Look at all the other products made with this very special material. Products that require high grade materials for the highest performance possible for what they were made to do.

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...4+stainless+steel&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

I think there is a pattern forming with stove casings and toasters... I never knew KENWOOD made a stove.. I wonder if it have an FM tuner built in.




















Regards[/SIZE]
 

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So I thought I left this thread thinking people were going to stay out of it unless they were going to talk about this particular exhaust. I just checked back in now and I'm wrong.
Please check this post again for those of you tempted to chime in about stmpo with unnecessary posts.


There is a subforum for vendor feedback. And unless you have personal experience with the vendor, you do not need to chime in with your $0.02 about it. Post your VENDOR FEEDBACK in the appropriate subforum. This thread is about this particular exhaust.
 
FWIW - We found that the Taitec GTLW is indeed made in China... and it made with 404 stainless steel... aka as a unique alloy.

404 stainless was engineered in China as a light and cheap replacement to 304 SS.. and a magnet doesn’t stick to it.

this pile of BS clearly represents the 'knowledge' behind it.
400-series stainless has been around for DECADES (developed by US aerospace, not China) and its non-magnetic properties are an ASSET as magnetism is a feature of ferrous materials which RUST, so 400-series will not oxidize, ever, while 304 will, so it is a BETTER material than 'food-grade' / 'decorative' 304-stainless series which is usually used for low-temp food-transfer and storage (and thats why it is polished inside- FDA requirement, not a special process to improve flow fyi). 300-series is not recommended for hi-temp applications until 316-grade.

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300-series

Ferritic grades: Ferritic stainless steels are magnetic non heat-treatable steels that contain chromium but not nickel. They have good heat and corrosion resistance, in particular sea water, and average resistance to stress-corrosion cracking. Their mechanical properties are not as strong as the austenitic grades, however they have better decorative appeal.


400-series

Austenitic grades: Austenitic stainless steels are non-magnetic non heat-treatable steels that are usually annealed and cold worked. Some austenitic steels tend to become slightly magnetic after cold working. Austenitic steels have excellent corrosion and heat resistance with good mechanical properties over a wide range of temperatures. There are two subclasses of austenitic stainless steels: chromium-nickel and chromium-manganese-low nickel steels. Chromium-nickel steels are the most general widely used steels and are also known as 18-8(Cr-Ni) steels. The chromium nickel ratio can be modified to improve formability; carbon content can be reduced to improve intergranular corrosion resistance. Molybdenum can be added to improve corrosion resistance; additionally the Cr-Ni content can be increased.


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so, in reality, Taitec knows 'something' about materials while others, including Borla, prey on the uninformed to whom 'stainless is stainless'.
 
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this pile of BS clearly represents the 'knowledge' behind it.
400-series stainless has been around for DECADES (developed by US aerospace, not China) and its non-magnetic properties are an asset as magnetism is a feature of ferrous materials which RUST, so 404 will not oxidize, ever, while 304 will, so it is a BETTER material than 'food-grade' / 'decorative' 304-stainless series which is usually used for low-temp food-transfer and storage. 300-series is not recommended for hi-temp applications until 316-grade.

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300-series

Ferritic grades: Ferritic stainless steels are magnetic non heat-treatable steels that contain chromium but not nickel. They have good heat and corrosion resistance, in particular sea water, and average resistance to stress-corrosion cracking. Their mechanical properties are not as strong as the austenitic grades, however they have better decorative appeal.


400-series

Austenitic grades: Austenitic stainless steels are non-magnetic non heat-treatable steels that are usually annealed and cold worked. Some austenitic steels tend to become slightly magnetic after cold working. Austenitic steels have excellent corrosion and heat resistance with good mechanical properties over a wide range of temperatures. There are two subclasses of austenitic stainless steels: chromium-nickel and chromium-manganese-low nickel steels. Chromium-nickel steels are the most general widely used steels and are also known as 18-8(Cr-Ni) steels. The chromium nickel ratio can be modified to improve formability; carbon content can be reduced to improve intergranular corrosion resistance. Molybdenum can be added to improve corrosion resistance; additionally the Cr-Ni content can be increased.


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so, in reality, Taitec knows 'something' about materials while others, including Borla, prey on the uninformed to whom 'stainless is stainless'.

You have got to be kidding me... 300 series is the most widely used exhaust material found today.
 
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this pile of BS clearly represents the 'knowledge' behind it.
400-series stainless has been around for DECADES (developed by US aerospace, not China) and its non-magnetic properties are an ASSET as magnetism is a feature of ferrous materials which RUST, so 404 will not oxidize, ever, while 304 will, so it is a BETTER material than 'food-grade' / 'decorative' 304-stainless series which is usually used for low-temp food-transfer and storage (and thats why it is polished inside- FDA requirement, not a special process to improve flow fyi). 300-series is not recommended for hi-temp applications until 316-grade.

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300-series

Ferritic grades: Ferritic stainless steels are magnetic non heat-treatable steels that contain chromium but not nickel. They have good heat and corrosion resistance, in particular sea water, and average resistance to stress-corrosion cracking. Their mechanical properties are not as strong as the austenitic grades, however they have better decorative appeal.


400-series

Austenitic grades: Austenitic stainless steels are non-magnetic non heat-treatable steels that are usually annealed and cold worked. Some austenitic steels tend to become slightly magnetic after cold working. Austenitic steels have excellent corrosion and heat resistance with good mechanical properties over a wide range of temperatures. There are two subclasses of austenitic stainless steels: chromium-nickel and chromium-manganese-low nickel steels. Chromium-nickel steels are the most general widely used steels and are also known as 18-8(Cr-Ni) steels. The chromium nickel ratio can be modified to improve formability; carbon content can be reduced to improve intergranular corrosion resistance. Molybdenum can be added to improve corrosion resistance; additionally the Cr-Ni content can be increased.


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so, in reality, Taitec knows 'something' about materials while others, including Borla, prey on the uninformed to whom 'stainless is stainless'.

Ferritic grades: Ferritic stainless steels are magnetic non heat-treatable steels that contain chromium but not nickel.

316 stainless is a heat treatment... and even 304 ss does not hold a magnet.


Regards
 
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Ferritic grades: Ferritic stainless steels are magnetic non heat-treatable steels that contain chromium but not nickel.

316 stainless is a heat treatment... and even 304 ss does not hold a magnet.

Get this bullshit off my thread....

Regards

You have got to be kidding me... 300 series is the most widely used exhaust material found today.

swerve is actually right. 316 is a higher grade steel and not just "a heat treatment". It contains more molybdenum than 304 which makes it highly resistant to corrosion.

Further, 304 is NOT the most widely used exhaust material found today. It is 409, or 400 series. So he is correct again.

reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_steel_grades

http://www.aksteel.com/markets_products/stainless.aspx

http://www.nsc.co.jp/en/tech/report/pdf/n8814.pdf
 
swerve is actually right. 316 is a higher grade steel and not just "a heat treatment". It contains more molybdenum than 304 which makes it highly resistant to corrosion.

Further, 304 is NOT the most widely used exhaust material found today. It is 409, or 400 series. So he is correct again.

reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_steel_grades

http://www.aksteel.com/markets_products/stainless.aspx

http://www.nsc.co.jp/en/tech/report/pdf/n8814.pdf

I stand corrected... most widely used highline aftermarket exhaust material.
 
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